Do you have a technical routine? Please share!

Do you have a technical routine? Please share!

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  • My Technical routine for the longest time consisted of choosing one set of chords from the "11 Russian Chords outline" and playing them as arpeggios up and down in 4 octaves!

     

    I would then transpose them up a half step each day until getting back to "C".

     

    Also, I would try and choose one major and 2 minor scales (C major + C minor (Harmonic/melodic) and work on grouping practice for the scales!

    (Hanon) Exercise op.39

     

    Then I would work on my chromatic scale and do the hands at the octave (C-C)

    then at major/minor 3rd

    and major/minor 6th.

    Cycling between all of them each day. (one per day).

    (Hanon) Exercise 40

     

    I also like to play a double thirds scales SLOWLY (major, minor, or chromatic) each day! (Hanon) Exercise 52

     

    I would also enjoy using one of Pischna's exercises to really focus on finger isolations.

    (Pischna) (any exercise)

     

    I would usually spend about 15 minutes on this.

    Then go to a Chopin Etude and play about half tempo, slowly. I really like using Op.10 no. 1 and Op.10 no.2! These are great etudes at slow speed even!

    I would spend about 10 minutes on that.

     

    Alot of these technique books are linked above!

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      • Adena
      • Adena_Franz
      • 11 mths ago
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      Dominic Cheli Much appreciated Dominic! So much to learn, so few hours in a day...

      I used your 11 Russian Chords as an excuse to learn Musescore, and attached are the Russian chords in all keys. If someone finds an error somewhere, I'd love to hear about it. I'm posting both the pdf and Musescore version.

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      • Pauline
      • 8 mths ago
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      Dominic Cheli Thank you for the detailed explanation of your technical routine! I appreciate the links, too!

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    • Adena Thank you, Adena, for uploading the pdf of Russian Chords. Much appreciated!

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    • Dominic Cheli Hello Dominic, I've appreciated your contributions to ToneBase, especially the talk you gave about choosing effective tempi for practice. I was just wondering because you mention focusing on finger isolation with the Pischna exercises. The Taubman Approach, which is presented on ToneBase, claims that isolation is not necessarily a good thing to develop in a piano technique. I guess I'm just trying to square the circle between what I'm hearing from different sources. Thanks for any insights you can provide! Stephen

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    • Stephen Brewer Hi Stephen!

      Personally I found alot of benefits from Piscina Exercises, in fact I will be talking about the benefits found in these exercises in a dedicated livestream on March 13th.

       

      I actually never studied the Taubman Approach, and am only familiar with aspects of it - not an expert like Robert Durso, Edna Golandsky or Jarred Dunn.

       

      On tonebase we do believe that there are many ways to reach your goals, and what works for some, might not work for others. 

       

      Have you tried Pischna yet?

      I agree that these types of exercises should be practiced in a specific way as to avoid tension and reap the benefits!

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      • Adena
      • Adena_Franz
      • 8 mths ago
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      Stephen Brewer You're welcome. Musescore has a bit of a learning curve, however, I've been able to create personalized exercises of the Russian chords, such as arppegios, I-IV-V progressions, as well as leaps. This alleviates the frustrations of having a book of instructions show you how to do an exercise in C major, and then say...oh, just do the same in all the remaining scales. If I'm to improve my sightreading, I need to see and then recognize the notes and patterns of these exercises in all the major and minor scales.

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    • Nicholas.3
    • 11 mths ago
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    That’s serious work! Thanks Dominic …..I’m inclined to dive right in but I’m aware that I might not have enough strength….. (maybe that’s the wrong term) 

     

    if there was one piece of advice for approaching  these exercises for an intermediate level player wanting to move forward without injury … what would it be ? Metronome ? Russian approach ? Super slow practice ? All of the above ?? 

     

    my current level is about ABRSM g7/8 … I’m just getting back into playing piano seriously after a long time ( I’m primarily a guitar / lute player)… I would love to level up to diploma level .. ( I have no illusions of being a concert pianist 😂)

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    • Albert
    • Albert
    • 11 mths ago
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    My favorite exercises are scales and double notes. There’s so much that can be done with scales, with different touches, articulations and dynamics.

    For advanced players, double thirds scales are invaluable. You just have to make sure to keep your wrists free of tension.

    There are potential dangers to piano exercises as such:

    1. Unmusical exercises (e.g., Hanon’s finger patterns) can lead to unmusical playing. If exercises are treated merely as “exercises,” players unconsciously learn to separate “technique” from music. Technique is nothing more than how we express musical ideas. It’s always a means to a musical end, never an end in itself. Always listen carefully and practice any exercises—even Hanon—musically!
    2. If overdone or played the wrong way they can lead to stress injuries.

    I generally encourage students to practice scales and arpeggios for their “exercise” routine, unless there’s a passage in a piece they’re learning that may benefit from a particular exercise. In that case we might do targeted exercises for finger independence, trills, double notes, etc.

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  • I don't. Honestly, I've never found the need, and I find them so dull and unenjoyable that I probably would have quit piano if any of my professors had actually enforced them.

    I've said it too many times, but I've been taking lessons with Robert Durso for about four months now, and he taught me that if you can't do something, it's because you're doing it wrong. Has nothing to do with your technical routine or whether or not you're warmed up. The other day, to test out his assertion, I came in from walking the dog in the cold. My fingers felt like ice. I played Mozart K. 333 anyway, at a respectable tempo. No issues. All because Bob taught me a better approach to the piano.

     

    I just don't get a lot of time to practice the piano, and I'd rather spend what time I have dealing with the issues at hand. Lately I've been practicing Les fées sont d'exquises danseuses. None of the aforementioned exercises would help with a) the redistribution Bob showed me that trivializes most of the prelude, b) the fact that my thumb was not actively moving along with my arm, or c) the shaping and rhythmic precision that makes the long trill bearable. With Bob's help, I dealt with the issues presented by the piece, and now it's honestly not all that hard to play. No scale/arpeggio/double notes practice necessary.

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  • I did work with a technical routine as I was growing up (Joseffy excercises, Pischna, Brahms’ excercises, etc…), but as an adult (senior) I choose material every day that would cover the techniques I want to keep up.  So, I make sure to practice either Schumann’s toccata, Feux Follets, or other Chopin or Liszt études.  
    I am glad you posted this topic; it is very interesting to know what others do.   
    I honestly grew to the understanding that you can actually use any material to work your technical skills…, it is just what you do with it !!!!

    Ultimately, if any advise is helpful, it would be: “do not do excercises deprived of a connection with the ear; that goes against technique”. 
    Cheers !

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    • Steve
    • Steve.5
    • 11 mths ago
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    I'm around a ToneBase Level 8 and previously I'd just done scales/arps/short-arps/chords up-and-down in one key per day or week or so.

    About a year ago I started trying out a routine similar to Dominic's Russian Chords after reading Boris Berman describe doing basically the same thing as a "Russion Tortune" routine in his "Notes from the Pianist's Bench". Berman's routine has 4 big components: scales (diatonic and chromatic), arps, what Berman calls "short arpeggios" (1-octave arpeggios, up and down the keyboard through all the inversions - I've had teachers call this "broken chords") and what Berman calls "broken chords" (1-octave arpeggios, up and down the keyboard through all the inversions alternating the notes i.e. fingered 1325/1425 rather than 1235/1245 way a "short arpeggio" would be fingered)

     

    On top of doing all this generally up and down 4 octaves, Berman would also do everything above in contrary motion. Berman says it takes him about 30 minutes to do the entire set, and the audio examples that come with the book are of a "Tonebase Level 12" player ripping through a million well-played notes really fast.

     

    Berman's routine became something of a monster for me for 6 months or so. I'd sometimes spend 2+ hours a day just on 2 of the 4 big things. In coordination with no-look sight-reading/hand-placement work I was doing, tasks like contrary motion short arps was something of a revelation for me helping learn to mentally visualize the hand I didn't have time to look at. That seems a helpful skill to keep working on.

     

    Another idea I got from Berman's book that I like is playing 2-octaves apart rather than 1. I have wide shoulders so 1-octave is always a bit uncomfortable for me and it's easier to hear individual notes (mistakes) when playing 2 octaves apart.

     

    An idea from Penelope Roskell that I like is re-do the "traditional" finging to avoid 4th-interval jumps/thumb-crossing-under: i.e. right hand c-major arps, start with 2 rather than 1.

     

    I've since come to see the whole "Russian Torture" set all as another kind of sight-reading exercise, where the main thing being worked on is quickly thinking out how to get the fingers to hit the right notes in a ton of different combinations -- with a pervasive technique-work overtone suggesting that pushing the metronome numbers is the ultimate goal.

     

    Maybe if I get up to a double digit "Tonebase Level" I'll come back to the full set, but I have no great childhood training I can rely on that "set" my technique in some perfect way that I can rely on to help me crank out a million notes with different sounds, motions and touches while thinking out new combinations of notes in real time. In lessons my problems are usually not hitting the  right notes, but how I hit them, and what kind of sound they make. Hence I've lately started trying out a 2 or 4 chord version of everything above (rather than 11) with less emphasis on speed, or at least much more varied speeds, and more emphasis on finding ways to change the sound and the motions I do behind the sound. I'm also working to bring chords as a #5 big-item back into my routine. Here is my current list of ways I'm trying to vary my approaches to all the exercises above. Some of these apply more to one big item or another i.e. chords vs. scales.

     

    • Speed of movement between positions, length of note held
    • Grouping rhythms/Pillars
    • Movement source: back, elbow, fingers
    • Amount of wrist/hand adjustment done for finger alignment
    • Degree to which hands come out for key tips (+centers)
    • Speed of finger placement: fully there vs. at the last instant
    • Volume of sound/articulation/Berman-floor, shock-absorbing in fingers/wrist/elbows
    • Force Source: back, shoulders, arms, wrist, fingers, rotation
    • Amount of active finger movement
    • Voicing of notes: top/bottom, inner, pairs
    • Speed/degree of tension release/return to neutral

     

    No idea how it will work out. Just the latest thing I'm trying

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    • Steve Do you have the electronic version of Berman's book, or the paper version?  I'm wondering if the electronic version will run on my kindle app on my ipad (with access to audio and video)

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      • Steve
      • Steve.5
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      Angela French I got the "multimedia edition" on amazon for around $30 and read it on the Kindle app on my iPad. It's nice with "hyper-link" type links to the example charts/music from the text and you can play his recorded examples right from the Kindle app. Regards.

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    • Aaron.2
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    My technical routine is predominantly based on the passages/pieces I am working on. It generally involved deliberate slow practice, and practise in chords, staccato, legato and phrasing. 

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    • Yolanda
    • Yolanda
    • 11 mths ago
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    My exercise is scales in different articulation and in rhythmic patterns and CRAMER  studies.

     

    anyone has idea what exercise can improve the left hand and octave pls ? also any exercises for beginner ?

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    • Susan
    • Susan
    • 11 mths ago
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    I review Czerny ex from op 599 and select a couple major minor scale pairs. I'm a level 4 intermediate senior who started as a piano beginner 10 years ago. I truly try not to beat myself up for not being further along . 

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    • Susan
    • Susan
    • 11 mths ago
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    I enjoy reading these discussion topics.  It provides lots of ideas for moving ahead in the journey.  

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    • Tanya
    • Tanya
    • 11 mths ago
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    I typically start with 3-5 Hanon exercises in Book 2 to help get my fingers moving. Then I play scales and arpeggios. For the latter, I especially like the Diminished 7 and Dominant 7 arpeggios, also in Hanon Book 2. All of this takes about 10 mins. I then move on to a Bach piece or Moszkowski etudes. Either is wonderful for technical practice. 
    When preparing for performances, I start cold with the pieces I plan to perform and then move on to my technical routine.

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  • I've pretty much avoided technical exercises most of my study and typically just worked with teachers who came up with exercises from the more challenging measures of the pieces I was studying at that time. While I may have learned those pieces to an ok degree, I finally realized in recent years that I was deficient technically so my practice the past 1 1/2 has changed. I practice about 3 hours a day (spread out throughout the day) and 30-45 minutes is spent on technique. 

     

    That routine is to run through major and minor (natural, harmonic and melodic) scales legato, staccato, loud and soft up and down the keyboard as well as contrary motion. In 2023, I chose a scale or two a week and focused solely on those but I would like to find a better way of cycling through all the circle of 5ths each week in 2024.

    I also play the scales in 3rds, 6th and 10ths followed by chromatic scales in 3rds (legato and staccato).

    Then, I proceed to arpeggios  (the same keys as the scales I am practicing) and then I move to diminished 7th and dominant 7th arpeggios. These are all played legato and then staccato. Then before ending, I usually do chord resolutions from the Dim7 and Dom7 chords back into the key that was previously selected for the scales and arpeggios that day or week. 

    I usually pick one or two short Czerny and one to two short Burgmüller pieces as both sight reading exercises and then spend the week trying to play it as well as I can.

    I'm looking to tweak this a bit now that I've done this for a year, I'm sure I'll make some changes in 2024, like adding some work on octaves and double thirds so I appreciate this topic and enjoyed reading what others are doing or have done. 

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      • ALICE
      • ALICE.1
      • 11 mths ago
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      Blair Boone-Migura Hi Blair, I can see this routine is from Shirley's teaching :) Alice

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    • ALICE Absolutely! She has been a godsend for me in many ways along with a few others. I've combined about 3 teachers, but the bulk of the scales and arpeggios work comes directly from Shirley! Good to see you here Alice! 

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  • I take my technique from the Peery Academy. There are about 8 levels with different requirements. They become progressively more challenging, obviously. I pick a key a week. I generally just go around the circle of 5ths including relative minors to the majors. I work on just 1 key a week. The purpose of the exercises is to teach your hands control. It is about learning how to relax them and how to hold them and my whole body. I gain more awareness of my body as I work through my technical exercises. I also gain strength. I find this transfers very well to my playing of repertoire. I play more expressively because I know how to control my movement and I prevent injury as well. 
     

    Some of the exercises, people would say are odd because you would never play a piece like that. But, I promise if you learn to play it the way it is explained, which is an exaggeration of the movement, when it comes time to really play the expression in music, it only enhances the movement and the sound. After all, it’s the sound we’re going for.

     

    Look up muscle builders or power fingers with Peery for a better explanation of these exercises. I’ve attached the technique cycles here. I start at mm=100 with 4 notes per click and move the metronome up every week until I’m at mm=152. I stay there for a few weeks and then drop it back to 100. It has really helped me to increase my ability to play more quickly and with more confidence and with the ticky sound you want for Mozart and Bach for instance.

     

    In addition to what is on the sheet, I also do scales on 3rds, 6ths, 10ths, octave scales with 3 different hand gestures, chromatic scales, trills and sometimes a rotation exercise. After my technique cycle, I play a Hanon exercise in the same Major key I’m working on for the week. I play it with muscle builders and power fingers and then quickly. Each of these techniques helps me use my hands in different ways and learn independent control of the fingers. This usually takes me about 10 minutes. I also give myself a Czerny Op. 599 every week. I play them very quickly with all of the expression. I hope that helps! Good luck!

      • Adena
      • Adena_Franz
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      Becky Brouwer Perry Piano Academy sounds very interesting. Do you enroll in a program? I’m at the ww2.peeryacademy.com website and they list 3 programs: Habits, Performance & Progress, and Private Players. Your technique practice would fit which level?

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    • Adena 

      I am a Peery licensed teacher. I went through the Peery licensing program. You can find a Peery teacher to help you work through the techniques. You can also submit videos for certification to the Peery academy. There are several videos that will explain the techniques. You can find them on the Peery YouTube channel. You really need a Peery teacher to help you understand how the techniques work with your body. 
       

      Habits is the foundational program. Learning these techniques will provide the foundation for any repertoire you might come across. 

      Players and Givers refer to the commitment level. Givers are more committed. The technique cycle moves up as the student becomes more advanced. 
       

      I love technique! I am a much better pianist as a result of learning these techniques and learning to teach them as well. Good luck to you!

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