RCM or an online music degree?

Hello - just want to get some thoughts here, if anyone has life experience to share?

 

I'm looking for a more structured way to get through a piano diploma and may consider taking an online music degree. Cost, time and attending classes in person are issues (I have a full-time job that is not related to music), as I'm planning to do it on the side, juggling work, life and family at the same time. I have ABRSM Grade 8 Practical and Theory from a long time back and have stopped pursuing music for 10+ years. Back where I'm from, ABRSM and Trinity College are the most 'recognized'; and I've moved to the US recently (so it seems RCM is more recognized here..).

 

I'm not planning to teach at the moment, but more so to pursue my passion in music/piano. I just need some structure as I don't plan to take up lessons with a piano teacher (no offense; but more for flexibility in timing..)

 

Wanted to see if anyone can share your thoughts or provide recommendations to either track is preferred?

 

Thank you in advance, and Happy New Year!

 

Best regards,

Michelle 

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    • Patricia_Moore
    • 2 wk ago
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    I started my RCM journey as a 30 year old and very happy I did.  I got my Grade 8 practical certificate and my Grade 2 theory.  From there I was able to start teaching students to a Grade 6 level and theory.  I would have loved to keep going, but my hands were already giving me trouble at that stage and didn’t think I could keep going.  I’ve done a lot of professional development to keep current and read a plethora of “teaching” books and workshops.

    I would say however, that I studied with teachers.  It kept me accountable to practice and particularly to prepare for exams.  I had a full time job and time was precious.  I never could have put myself through on my own.  You need the teacher’s knowledge of the repertoire, what examiners are looking for, and to push me to stay engaged in the process.  I am proud of my accomplishments and be able to hang my certificates up in my piano studio.

    • Dhruva_Seshadri
    • 2 wk ago
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    Hi, I pursued a similar path. I was able to complete DipABRSM, LRSM, LTCL and FTCL diplomas in piano performance while working a full-time day job. 

    Here are a few things that helped me:

    1. I did not have too many family commitments at the time. I was married but living in a different town from my wife. We also didn't have kids then. So I used my weekday mornings and evenings to practice. 

    2. I always tried to stay close to my workplace and thus saved a lot of time. 

    3. I used a digital piano for most of my practice (yes, it's fine!) and would use the acoustic whenever I visited home on weekends. Using a digital helped to stay consistent despite living in an apartment where noise would have otherwise been an issue. 

    4. I kept playing in recitals, concerts, etc. (both solo and collaborative) in both towns. This helped me to learn not just my exam repertoire but also a lot of other music, both solo and collaborative. 

    5. I set targets for myself to work towards. Like "I'm going to do *** diploma this November", quite a few months in advance and then would work backwards from there. My repertoire consisted of both fresh pieces and some that I already learned and needed to refine. 

    I managed without a teacher, but it really takes a lot of dedication. I would advise most people to sign up for lessons with a good teacher (online or offline) who can keep you accountable and focused, identify and work on blind spots, and give you regular targets to work towards. 

    • tonebase_user.258
    • 13 days ago
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    What are your goals? 
     

    I work full time outside of music and began piano study at age 30. My goal is RCM 10 by age 35. I take a 90 minute lesson every week and practice daily (sometimes more, sometimes less due to work). 
     

    My teacher has many music degrees and I have discussed this exact question with her. We have agreed, the path I am taking is basically a music degree! 
     

    She has a lineage from Rachmononiff and being able to learn from her every week for years is truly invaluable. That is in fact one of the largest benefits to music degrees - private lessons with exceptional teachers. Before colleges, music pupils learned all their skills from a few teachers. No online dashboards or essays! 
     

    I guess my rant gives you another option. I love music and will be exceptionally proud (probably more so than any online music program) to hang my RCM 10 or RCM ARCT diploma one day. 
     

    John 

    • Mark_Goodhart
    • 13 days ago
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    Thanks for raising this topic.  I've been teaching about 2 years now and have been trying to determine what type of certificate or recognition of achievement programs to pursue for me and my students.  The RCM seems like a great "official" certification program and I think it provides a good structure to help a teacher be more rigorous in their teaching approaches.  I have also looked at "Road to Virtuosity" as a way to recognize achievement for my students.  While not as pedigreed as the RCM, it does provide a good way to organize achievement and get connected to a community that supports moving students forward in an organized and recognized way.

    • Brenda_Hunting
    • 12 days ago
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    I think it really depends on what your long term goals are. Being able to perform and being able to teach are two completely different skill sets. If you just want to be able to play at a high level for your own benefit, then pursuing performance exams like RCM makes the most sense. As others have also suggested, I would recommend taking lessons in order to do your very best. (Even the world's greatest tennis players still have coaches to help them refine their skills!)

    If you want to teach, you would be better to pursue a teaching course. I don't know what is available with RCM (I'm in Australia), but I do know that ABRSM and Trinity both offer teaching qualifications, as do the various Australian examination boards, so it is highly likely that RCM offers something similar. These courses involve understanding educational philosophy, child development, analysing method books to determine which ones might best suit your goals as a teacher, how to incorporate supplementary material (and what sort of supplementary material), how to break down pieces in order to teach them effectively, how to know what order to teach pieces and techniques in and more.  Online groups like The Curious Piano Teachers (based in Britain, but has members all over the world) are a wonderful resource for additional training and support in your teaching. 

    • Sam.14
    • 11 days ago
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    Hi Michelle, ABRSM representative in South Carolina here. I grew up with ABRSM in Hong Kong and did both the DipABRSM and LRSM here in the US. ABRSM is slowly gaining reputation here, and many colleges now recognize it. I'd be happy to connect you with the representative in your area if you would like to continue with the Diploma levels. It's much more accessible now with the video options. The next step for you after G8 would be ARSM (formerly DipABRSM). I highly recommend continuing with it if you want structure since you already know the system well.

      • Michelleseah
      • 11 days ago
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       thanks for your reply! I did the DipABRSM exam years ago but was short of a couple of points to pass the exam. I will definitely be going for ARSM and LRSM in the near future. 

      • Sam.14
      • 10 days ago
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       Awesome! ARSM does not have the written components, and requirements are less stringent compared to DipABRSM, so hopefully you pass this time! Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions.

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