Mastering Tricky Passages and answering your questions!

Thu May 14 at 11 AM - 12 PM PDT
Thu May 14 at 11 AM - 12 PM PDT
Event by Team

Welcome, everyone. 

If you’ve been sitting with questions about your playing, fingering, tricky passages, or musical roadblocks you haven’t quite cracked yet, this is a great moment to bring them out.

 

Whether it’s something small that’s been nagging you or a bigger challenge you’re ready to work through, every question is worth asking. Join us live today for real-time guidance and problem-solving!

 

Leave any and all questions below!

30 replies

null
    • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
    • Peter_G
    • 2 days ago
    • Reported - view

    MORE ON THE MIDDLE PEDAL!

    Hello everyone, including  ,    

    To all those interested in the “Middle Pedal” discussion during the Apil 22 “Tricky Passages” LiveStream, I have posted an audio-only recording of myself using the Middle Pedal in the Rachmaninoff E Major Prelude, as performed in a student recital given on May 19, 2000 as part of a Continuing Ed “Piano Performance Seminar” at New England Conservatory. I’ve re-uploaded the score so you can follow along...(page 2 of the PDF.)

    The section featuring the Middle Pedal starts at 2:20.  There you will hear a complete descending E Major Scale, played legato, starting with the E above Middle C, right in the middle of the piano, while both hands are also flying around to other registers, making it impossible to hold the E major scale notes and play the others at the same time.  . I addressed this by grabbing the scale notes with the Middle Pedal as soon as I could without interference from the surrounding notes. I thereby managed to play the scale legato and the surrounding notes staccato (on purpose, I might add!).

    The scale begins on the first measure of the next to the last staff. Some of the notes I could hold, but others I needed the pedal for, and those are circled in red

    I dug this out of an old box of tapes in my basement, and was surprised to hear that I seemed to have pulled it off. There is a generous allotment of mistakes elsewhere but not in that section. So you will be able to hear why I was so interested in cultivating this technique.

    The recording is made on a CASSETTE, copying off a Digital Audio Tape (DAT), using a quickly cobbled together inexpensive stereo microphone set up.  No video of course. (pocket size movie cameras weren’t invented in those days!)

    I took this seminar 8 times during a 4 year span from 1997-2000, and managed to stagger through all 24 Rachmaninoff Preludes, generally 4 per semester, in recitals like this.  Somewhere I have cobbled together  a single cassette featuring all of the Preludes, which I may post some day if I have sufficient temerity.

    My present day goal is to re-do and polish all of these pieces, now that I have a nice piano of my own and advanced recording technology, all in my own home!

    I have taken the liberty of cc’ing:  Noel, Doug and Dominic himself, as they all offered thoughts and suggestions, I hope that others will find it interesting also.

    Hope you enjoy it! 

    Peter Golemme

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 19 hrs ago
      • Reported - view

       Noel, the way I would put it is that you play fast things really well.  The tempo of your Rach Sonata is very impressive but more importantly really musical and beautiful.  If you ever need me to defend you to those family members who think you're playing too many notes too fast let me know!  Can't wait to hear what you and the others will do with those Liszt Etudes.

      I had never heard of "half-pedaling" except once or twice before joining Tonebase. I'm going to try it with the Ab Major Prelude, where, as we discussed last session, I was having too much trouble sneaking the Middle Pedal in between those 'substrate' [another term I had never heard before] 16th notes.

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 18 hrs ago
      • Reported - view

       If you played all 24 preludes, I'd say your level is certainly higher than 7! And I wouldn't call your tempo in that excerpt slow at all! If you play all 24 at that standard, + middle pedal use, I'll be the first to buy the recording. Just don't overcharge me😂.

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 18 hrs ago
      • Reported - view

       OK I'll cut you deal on the album, perhaps in exchange for a blurb on the back cover!

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 18 hrs ago
      • Reported - view

       Sounds like a deal to me. Hell, I'll throw in a bottle of Crown Royal as a bonus.

    • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
    • Peter_G
    • 18 hrs ago
    • Reported - view

    Regretfully I can't make this session as I'll be loading my equipment into the car for an evening gig with my rock and roll band! I'll check out the recorded version afterwards, but will miss the fun of participating in the chat.

Content aside

Attendees

Stats

  • 30Replies
  • 173Views