11 Russian Chords
Hello everyone,
I'm Dan from Kent in England. I'm new here and I'm going through Level 1. The quality of information and the teaching methods are superb - just what I was looking for.
I have two related questions:
1) why are the 11 Russian chords those kinds of chords? Why are they major, minor, dominant sevens and diminished sevens? Why not major sevens and minor sevens for example?
2) Why those particular chords? For example, (in C) why not Csus2? Why D7?
I feel like I'm missing something obvious (a music theory rule? a developing finger pattern I'm not getting?). That said, I wont be too surprised if the answer is "that's just the way it is"...
I suppose what's at the bottom of my questions is what am I trying to learn or develop? Finger technique, understanding of theory, something else?
Sorry, that was a third group of questions! I love playing these chords by the way, just not sure what benefit I should be trying to derive.
Many thanks if you can point me to the right information.
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Great question Dan!
The simple answer is that these are the 11 most popular chords found in classical music, and the most important ones to know (they appear all over the place!)
For example, minor 7ths, major 7ths are chords that do appear, but are admittedly much more infrequent than dominant or diminished 7th chords.
What we're trying to learn is a familiarity with these very common chords, immediacy of recognization, and automatic fingering associations! It helps to know these chords inside and out from theory perspective, but your fingers should also know them like the back of your hand!
Hope this is helpful!
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As a composition student who has had to study so many scores across the centuries from baroque to classical to modern film scores, I'd say just like Dominic points out those chords are merely statistically common in the classical era of piano music, up until the later romantics like Debussy and Ravel who began to introduce a little bit of major & minor 7ths (and 9ths and so on). In the vast majority of music up until the late 19th century those were the types of chords you would encounter with any frequency – and any others (such as sus2 or maj7ths) you might see sometimes but they were often considered passing harmonies in their day, rather than complete chordal harmonies (for example I've spotted major 7ths in Bach and Beethoven but they wouldn't have thought of them as a maj7 chord, since that 7th was typically used functionally as a passing tone, whereas a lot of modern music in fact resolves to this chord!).
However, as someone living in the modern era I'm influenced also influenced by jazz, rnb/funk/soul, pop, etc. When I started doing the 11 chords exercise I decided to adapt it to include every variation of 7ths as used in jazz, sus chords and extended harmonies. However, after awhile I discovered this practice routine turned into 30+ chords! The variations can grow exponentially. In many ways I think it's helpful to remember these exercises are part of your toolkit, effective as warmups or arpeggio study – but not really worth overwhelming yourself with every possibility during every practice. Keep it simple to what works best for you.
Therefore I recommend to consider the type of music you are most interested in playing, and perhaps add to the exercise based around that. For example, if you are more interested in later 19th century and jazz piano music, you could add the maj & min7ths since they appear more frequently starting around then. Alternatively, if you're working on repertoire that has a lot of a certain type of harmony, you might consider adding that to your routine temporarily. But like Dominic says, the 11 are a good baseline that appear in almost all music (fully diminished chords appear less frequently in the modern era, but they are still used a lot in jazz in different ways)!
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Let me give one example.
Lets start with C Mayor
Tonika: C-E-G
1.st Inverson: E-G-C
2.nd Inversion: G-C-E
Subdominant: F-A-C
1.st Inversion: A-C-F
2.nd Inversion: C-F-A
Dominant: G-H-D
1.st Inversion: H-D-G
2.nd Inversion' D-G-H
I highly recommend:
The complete Book of Scales, Chords, Arpeggios and Cadences
by Palmer, Manus, Lethco
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Michael Walther said:
The complete Book of Scales, Chords, Arpeggios and Cadences
by Palmer, Manus, LethcoIf there are any other players in the UK following this conversation and you are interested in that book, be careful on Amazon. Amazon pushes a version that costs £37.90 (!!!), but which is identical to another version they have for £13.50 or £4.99 on kindle. On kindle it looks great and is very usable.