Is this piece too hard for me? Let's figure it out with Dominic

Tue Apr 7 at 11 AM - 12 PM PDT
Tue Apr 7 at 11 AM - 12 PM PDT
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We’ve all been there.

You sit down to practice and start wondering…
Did I choose something that’s actually right for me? Or am I just fighting the piece the whole time?

This live session is about answering that question honestly.

We’ll look at what “too hard” really means — not just technically, but musically and mentally. Sometimes a piece feels difficult because it’s pushing you in the right way. Other times, it’s just not the right fit (at least not yet).

 

I’ll talk through how to tell the difference, what to look for in your own playing, and how to adjust without losing momentum.

 

You can bring questions about:

  • A piece you’re currently working on
  • Something that’s been feeling frustrating or unclear
  • Or just your own experience of getting stuck

We’ll work through real examples and questions together.

If you’ve ever felt unsure whether to keep going or step back, this is the time to figure it out!

51 replies

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    • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
    • Peter_G
    • 2 days ago
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    Dominic has a great workshop addressing practice plans: https://app.tonebase.co/piano/live/player/fall-reset-practice-plan-2025

    He suggests there that if you find yourself spending X hours (I forget the number, but it's in the hundreds) trying to learn a piece, it may be worth considering whether it's too difficult for you. If you have hundreds of hours to spare, no problem, go for it, but for most of us, our practice time is all too scarce, and this level of attention on a single piece may be taking too many hours away from working on other pieces that could more constructively contribute to our improvement.

    I believe there is value in reaching for pieces above your (assumed) present capabilities.  You may surprise yourself, and you may actually improve your technique in the process.  But it can also give you an "excuse" to gloss over the difficult parts (something I'm often guilty of), e.g. "Well I know this piece is above my level, so I'm not going to worry about learning this correctly".

    So at the same time I also believe that there is great value in actually trying to perfect a piece that is already within your reach technically.  The effort involved in trying to play something, note-perfectly, with full expression, from memory, can give you great insights and experience with learning and developing your skills, not to mention enhanced respect for a piece that you had previously thought was "easy".

    P.S. I don't believe that playing something Note-Perfectly is necessary for performance, especially in our Tonebase concerts/challenges, but there is a great benefit to be derived from aspiring to that.

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • Yesterday
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       Wow that's a big program, not just in terms of technique but also in terms of the depth of the pieces.  I checked out your Op. 7 Mvt. I & can see that it is very polished already. I played this piece in the early 2000's in the class recitals for a course I was taking in the New England Conservatory extension division. Somewhere I have a recording of it on cassette.

       I wasn't quite able to achieve the briskness of your tempo, which I think is just right. It needs to be quick enough so that those 16th notes around mm 290 come out as a kind of blur of harmony (your version) rather than a rattle of distinct notes. (my version!). And then the 16th notes on the main theme just before that.  Yikes! I would get really stiff there.  (Bringing to mind the theme of this upcoming live stream!)

      I also like your dynamics.  Most of my recordings by pros really exagerrate the sfz's, hammering them out in an enormous burst of volume in contrast to ultra soft p's, which doesn't make for a pleasant listening experience.. I think Beethoven intentionally wrote for the dynamic range of his piano which would not have been nearly as large as a modern piano.  Your sfz's are just right,  very well accented and distinct from the context, but not shocking us out of our seats. 

      I understand that Beethoven used this one as a show piece for himself in his early days of establishing himself. 

      You've really got this movement under control & I think it's going to sound great, & I'm confident the remainder is going to be equally good.  I hope you'll share it with us at some point.  The 4th movement is one of my favorite Beethoven piano movements of all time.  Keep up the good work!

      • Kerstin
      • Yesterday
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      Thanks for your kind words. In the first place I was hammering around too. 😂 My teacher slowed me down from fffff to f. If you have time and you like it, I have played the 2.+3. movement on a Steinway in Leipzig. https://youtu.be/NvjbGTVJEx0?is=_2JW9mFkHV23mAPY
      The 4. mvt is still not memorized. I am fighting with it. Bach and Franck I won‘t play from memory. That’s too much for the time I have.  

      • NANCY_A_MINDEN
      • Yesterday
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       Listening to it now and loving it. It's like getting to visit with you. Lovely transition to third movement. Thank you for posting it!

      • Kerstin
      • Yesterday
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       Hi Nancy! Thank you so much. This was a nice experience and the Steinway was fantastic. 🙋‍♀️

      • Maria_F
      • Yesterday
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       Schön! I think you sounded better on the Steinway than the Yamaha, and great job with the chord voicings and dynamics! Your tempo is just right, too, and as was already said, you had just enough clarity in the ornamentations. 

      • Kerstin
      • Yesterday
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      Thank you !

    • Astrida_Gobina
    • 2 days ago
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    Maybe I’m just lazy, but I think that time is the best assistant in learning new and difficult music. Quite often I have been hammering one piece alone for a very extended periods like two weeks in a row just to hit the wall and realize that I have no idea what I’m doing and where I want to go with it. Then I drop it and forget. When the piece calls again, and they occasionally do, sometimes I almost don’t believe I had such difficulties with it.

    • Personal trainer
    • Judy_Kuan.1
    • 2 days ago
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    I'm curious if others also ask AI for feedback on repertoire "reality checks". A few months ago, I asked Gemini whether I'm ready for Chopin's 3rd Sonata (I was inspired by  !) and if so, approximately how long it would take me to learn/memorize and play each movement. I gave it some background info (e.g., previously played 4 ballades and a scherzo, that it took me X practice hours to memorize/play the Heroic polonaise at X-minute tempo, that it took me X practice hours to memorize/play Mazeppa at X-minute tempo, etc).

    While I have taken more hours than Gemini's estimates for the first movement, it's within the realm if I would have had more uninterrupted practice time / less travel. I think that knowing/tracking historical practice volume for previously-learned pieces offers good datapoints for new pieces, especially among similar musical styles, whether or not you end up entering it into AI...

      • Maria_F
      • 2 days ago
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       I don't use AI, but from what I have seen, Gemini gets confused and "hallucinates" frequently about music. The AI Overviews that I can't figure out how to turn off have said many very incorrect things.

      I actually kept a list of worst AI Overviews at one point, and the majority of the massively incorrect ones were about composers or geography.

      I also do not think Gemini is completely "proficient" in German, as it gets declensions and conjugations wrong constantly.  

      • PViseskul
      • 2 days ago
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       Good point about keeping track of the pieces learnt. I normally mark the start date on the piece, maybe I should also put the date I parked the piece as well to record how long I spent on it.

      PS: the question I use to test the AI is "give me a list of Thai concert pianists" and without fail it gave me Dang Thai Son at the top of the list 🤣

      • Personal trainer
      • Judy_Kuan.1
      • 2 days ago
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      Then you may be impressed by this! https://share.google/aimode/A3EcF8JYymvQh27XU

      The models do learn over time

      • Maria_F
      • 2 days ago
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       I have seen that! I have a list of worst AI answers and that is on it. 

       I guess it has learned! 

      • PViseskul
      • 2 days ago
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      guess it does! 😄

      It's a good list btw, thank you 🙂

      • Maria_F
      • 2 days ago
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       It still believes, however, that Liszt was born in Salzburg, Germany and that Vorarlberg, Australia's only international border is "the Australia Tirol."

      • Personal trainer
      • Judy_Kuan.1
      • 2 days ago
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       Hmm I'm getting a different response than that! But to the overall concern of AI accuracy, I totally agree and generally only ask about, for instance, composers like Beethoven and Chopin where I can spot inaccuracies/hallucinations, versus (most) other composers that I'm shamefully ignorant about 😅

      • Maria_F
      • 2 days ago
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       To which one? I have the responses saved and can paste them here.

      • Astrida_Gobina
      • 2 days ago
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       I use ChatGPT when I’m looking for specific repertoire. The hallucinations are easily spotted once you start looking for the reference, however, I’ve also got some quite interesting discoveries that I would have never found with google. Regarding difficulty assessment of pieces, it has very strange ideas sometimes.

      • Personal trainer
      • Judy_Kuan.1
      • 2 days ago
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       The Liszt birthplace... I just queried it this afternoon. Maybe I have a paid/different version?? 

      https://share.google/aimode/VGpeWXIDxXhrMVVqg

      • Maria_F
      • 2 days ago
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       Maybe. Mine was not even particularly relevant to Franz Liszt (it got geographically confused and went completely off topic).  I can paste it here. 

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • Yesterday
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       To answer your original question Judy, it would never occur to me to ask an AI entity about whether I'm ready to play a particular piece. I use it for other things, but in trying to select repertoire, I primarily rely on recordings and then the scores to determine whether I can realistically expect to play something.  I've not had a teacher since I was in college (50! years ago), so I don't get any guidance there, but Tonebase is helping me discover and explore other repertoire beyond my familiar comfort zone.  

      I use AI to provide focused answers to technical things, especially with the music and video software I am trying to learn, and with things like microphone placement and targeting unwanted frequencies and artifacts in my recordings, stuff like that  Rather than clicking on Help and being sent to a 200 page manual, I can fashion a question about a very specific problem or issue, and get an answer that is focused on exactly what I am working on. I always take it with a grain of salt and test it out, but it's been astonishingly good and helpful, and saved me hours of frustration. 

      Inspired by your question, I just tried Chat GPT out on a question about what fingerings people use in a particular measure that i am wrestling with  (RH in m. 14 of G Major Fugue, WTC1), and it gave me some very useful information. I'll never cease to be amazed at the resources that are out there in today's world.  

    • Noel_Nguyen
    • Yesterday
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    Regarding this topic, one thing to consider is that it probably matters more to (aspiring) pros than to amateurs. I remember when I was a conservatory student, always worrying that a piece would take too long to learn and take away precious time to learn the tons of other pieces to fulfill the requirements of the program. One of my greatest joys as an amateur now, is that I can take all the time I need to learn a piece. This allowed me to finally learn my dream pieces such as Rach Sonata no.2 and Chopin Polonaise-Fantaisie, and more importantly, to learn them thoroughly.

    • Andrew.13
    • Yesterday
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    Is this piece too difficult for me? (I’m in the striped shirt)

    1st recording.

    Been working on this concerto since November 2025. 

    Lots of mistakes (and laughter) 😂 

      • Pianist, composer and piano teacher
      • Sindre_Skarelven
      • Yesterday
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       That was very enjoyable, Andrew! 👏🏻 You got this - not too difficult at all! 

      • Andrew.13
      • 23 hrs ago
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       thank you! Glad the slip ups didn’t get in the way 😂

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 14 hrs ago
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       hey Andrew that’s a more than credible performance. I don’t think that this is beyond your skill level at all. Maybe you haven’t perfected a lot of 2 part inventions in your day, but it sounds like you’ve been doing something right as an alternative! Your teacher obviously recognized that and has thrown you onto the court with the starters (( with apologies for seeing too much of life in terms of basketball metaphors))

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