paderewski chopin scherzo no 2

Hi,

 

Looking for a pdf of paderewski edition chopin scherzo no 2. Everything online seems to be poor scans/copies if someone could share. Thanks! 

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    • Christopher_Macy
    • 9 days ago
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    It’s always best to buy the scores

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      • tonebase_user.252
      • 8 days ago
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      where? I've been looking and can't find it 

      • Christopher_Macy
      • 8 days ago
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      https://a.co/d/5EYzWeQ

    • Joao_Dias_da_Silva
    • 8 days ago
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    Hi Zac, I suppose you checked the IMSLP?

    I found it there, and I would say you will never get a much better scanned version than this one:

    https://imslp.eu/files/imglnks/euimg/e/e4/IMSLP980725-PMLP2355-PWM-1950-Chopin-Scherzo-No.2-B-flat-minor-Op.31.pdf

    If you want the paper score, you can easily find it new or used on Amazon, eBay, and some specialised stores, such as the Music Shop Europe (for Europe), Hal Leonard or the Juilliard Store (in the US). Depending on your location, I am sure you can find a deal for 30 or 40 EUR (including shipping) for the 4 scherzos.

    https://www.amazon.com/Scherzos-Chopin-Complete-Works-Vol/dp/154009720X

    https://juilliardstore.com/products/chopin-scherzos-paderewski-ed-00132319

    https://www.musicshopeurope.com/chopin-cw-v-scherzos-pwm236

    I do have the "Real Musical" paper edition (Spanish edition), which is also based on the original Polish edition edited by Paderewski. However, as I mentioned earlier, I don't think I can do any better than the scanned version you will find on IMSLP.

    Good luck!

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    • tonebase_user.252
    • 7 days ago
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    Wow thank you so much! This is so helpful! Have you tried comparing the different editions to see which you like more? 

      • Joao_Dias_da_Silva
      • 7 days ago
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       Hi again, I do care about getting either the Urtext editions, which are supposedly based on original sources and should therefore be the most faithful to the composer's wishes, or annotated/study editions, which are usually issued by highly regarded artists. For instance, I have those Chopin Editions from Real Musical with Paderewski for the Scherzos, Ballades and Impromptus, and I also have an Urtext edition of the Études. However, I once got a score annotated by Alfred Cortot for some scattered pieces (Barcarolle, Polonaise-Fantasie, etc.), and I love it, and then realised that he published several other study scores for works by Chopin, Schumann, Schubert, etc. You can find most of them in the IMSLP:

      https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Cortot,_Alfred/Editor

      Incidentally, the Scherzos are not on this list, but you can find them available for download on other sites or forums, such as this one:

      https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=17478.0

      The Cortot edition usually provides later (more recent) versions of some works by the composer himself, at least with Chopin. One notable case is with the Fantasie Impromptu op. 66, of which you will find two significantly different versions published and performed all over...

      What's more, you actually can listen to Cortot playing, according to his annotations, most of the works for which he published these study editions. For a more modern, yet faithful rendition, with lovely organic tempos, consistent technical execution and utmost clarity (you can listen to every grace note), my personal favourite is Claudio Arrau. But that's me!

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      • tonebase_user.252
      • 5 days ago
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       How facinating! I really appreciate your insights and thoughts on this!!! It's amazing how there's so much to consider when approaching these magnificent pieces. 

    • Marlyd
    • 5 days ago
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      • tonebase_user.252
      • 4 days ago
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      how do I get to the file?

      • Marlyd
      • 4 days ago
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      https://imslp.org/wiki/Scherzo_No.2,_Op.31_(Chopin,_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric) on this page. You get the four scherzi. I think it has been mentioned in other replies

      • Marlyd
      • 4 days ago
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      @Zak  in A Flat Major   

      click on right side, above the yellow image

      • Joao_Dias_da_Silva
      • 2 days ago
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        I think this full edition of the 4 scherzos (all together) is currently not available for download. However, the 4 scherzos can be obtained separately from the IMSLP, by choosing that same yellow front page:

      1. Scherzo No.1, Op.20 (B minor)
      2. Scherzo No.2, Op.31 (B♭ minor)
      3. Scherzo No.3, Op.39 (C♯ minor)
      4. Scherzo No.4, Op.54 (E major)

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