Week 2 Thread: The Era of Haydn and Mozart! 🐴

Welcome to the Main Thread for the third week of "Mozart & Haydn - Music from the 18th Century" challenge! 


This week, we will talk about the different ways composers were trained during the 18th century and how they could achieve such high productivity through schemas and patterns

Look at a different piece by the same composer you are studying and try to compare the music to the new piece you are practicing now.

If you are ready, post a short clip of the patterns you found in your music! One of the ways we grow is through feedback and self-reflection.

Pick a piece from the suggested repertoire according to your level or share any piece written during the 18th century that you have been working on!


If you want to describe your process, feel free to use the following template.

  • Piece(s) you have been working on:
  • Things you found easy:
  • Things you found difficult:

Happy sharing 😍

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    • Natalie Peh
    • Natalie_Peh
    • 2 yrs agoMon. July 18, 2022 - 5:46 pm
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    Hi Dr Antonella, hi everyone!

    I'm in the middle of learning Mozart's Sonata in C major K309, and this is the 2nd movement. It's grown on me, even though I didn't think the 2nd movement was as much fun as the 1st movement in the beginning. I need to work on this more thoroughly. I find the ornaments challenging in this piece.

     

    https://youtu.be/0mConpEXlvc

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      • Antonella Di GiulioTeam
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      • dr_AntonellaDiGiulio
      • 2 yrs agoMon. July 18, 2022 - 6:11 pm
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      Natalie Peh maybe change the video settings to "unlisted"... 

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoMon. July 18, 2022 - 9:38 pm
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      Antonella Di Giulio yes, so sorry about that, I have changed the settings now

      https://youtu.be/0mConpEXlvc

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      • Antonella Di GiulioTeam
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      • dr_AntonellaDiGiulio
      • 2 yrs agoMon. July 18, 2022 - 10:19 pm
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      Natalie Peh Thanks! It is already very good! Good job!

      If you would like the phrases to sound much more beautiful, maybe think the end of each musical phrase a bit softer. 

      Also, follow the phrases with the movement of your wrist, which you already do, but not everywhere! 

      But it is very good already :)

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      • Natalie Peh
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      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 12:05 am
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      Antonella Di Giulio thanks very much for the feedback, Dr. Antonella. I will work on the phrasing, and be more aware about the wrist movement too

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      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 12:15 am
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      Natalie Peh my pleasure! Sometimes we are so focused on notes that we forget that also our body has to feel relaxed and comfortable while playing :)

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      • Vidhya Bashyam
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      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 12:54 am
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      Natalie Peh Very nice Natalie!

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      • Natalie Peh
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      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 1:05 am
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      Antonella Di Giulio that's so true. I'm going to try singing along with the melody the next time I practise this. I am wondering if it will help, especially with breathing while playing  :)

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      • dr_AntonellaDiGiulio
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 1:24 am
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      Natalie Peh I think you might try to sing the phrases for yourself without the piano or maybe accompanying yourself with the left hand and then imitate what you were singing with the right hand. 

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 1:39 am
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      Vidhya Bashyam thanks! Glad you liked it!

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 1:41 am
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      Antonella Di Giulio thanks, it's a great idea. Will try this.

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      • Andrea Buckland
      • Andrea_Buckland
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 6:55 am
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      Natalie Peh well done, Natalie!

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 9:29 am
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      Andrea Buckland thanks, glad you liked it 

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      • Sindre SkarelvenAmbassador
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      • Sindre_Skarelven
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 10:01 am
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      Natalie Peh Well played, Natalie! I thought you were particularly good with all those long and fast runs. Looking very much forward to hear how you progress with the singing quality of the melody. But already beautiful playing!  

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
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      • Juan_Carlos
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 2:59 pm
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      Natalie Peh Sounds beautiful, Natalie! Very good job!

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 3:19 pm
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      Sindre Skarelven thanks very much, I will try and make the melody sing and focus on the phrasing

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 3:20 pm
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      Juan Carlos Olite thanks very much,  I'm so glad you liked it

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      • Gail Starr
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      • Gail_Starr
      • 2 yrs agoSat. July 23, 2022 - 7:16 pm
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      Natalie Peh You have the perfect light touch for Mozart!  

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoSun. July 24, 2022 - 1:27 am
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      Gail Starr thanks! I really do like Mozart very very much :)

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      • Susan Rogers
      • Susan_Rogers
      • 2 yrs agoSun. July 24, 2022 - 5:11 am
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      Natalie Peh beautiful playing!

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      • Gail Starr
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      • Gail_Starr
      • 2 yrs agoSun. July 24, 2022 - 12:01 pm
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      Antonella Di Giulio I love your idea of singing the phrases without the piano.  When I was traveling for work all the time, that was how I could "practice" a bit without a piano!

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      • Gail Starr
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      • Gail_Starr
      • 2 yrs agoSun. July 24, 2022 - 12:01 pm
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      Natalie Peh You have a natural gift for Mozart, Natalie!  I love your playing.

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      • Natalie Peh
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      • 2 yrs agoSun. July 24, 2022 - 5:42 pm
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      Susan Rogers thank you 

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      • Derek McConville
      • Derek_McConville
      • 2 yrs agoFri. July 29, 2022 - 4:40 pm
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      Natalie Peh very nice playing! 

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 yrs agoFri. July 29, 2022 - 5:22 pm
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      Derek McConville thank you, Derek!

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    • Thurmond R
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    • 2 yrs agoTue. July 19, 2022 - 3:05 am
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    I was able to make a recording of the Slow Movement; it ends on the Dominant, with an Attacca to the finale, but I still have to work on that. I know the last few notes are a little too fast, but that shouldn't be much of a problem to fix.

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