Piano Manufacturers and Brands: A discussion!

Hello Everyone! 

Here is a place for us to chat about our favorite pianos, questions, and general conversation!

 

What instruments have you loved playing lately? Which brands surprised you (in a good or bad way)? Have your preferences changed over time as your ears and technique developed?

 

Feel free to share:
• Your favorite grands or uprights you’ve played  
• Differences you notice between brands in touch or color  
• Hidden gems or underrated makers  
• Questions you have if you’re shopping or comparing instruments  

No right answers here — just experiences and impressions. Curious to hear what everyone is playing and why it speaks to you.

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    • Stefano_Montani
    • 3 days ago
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    I just bought a Petrof P118 upright piano, and it's my favorite. I had a Petrof before, thirty years old. I went to various piano shops to try out different ones, but only this one made me fall in love with its sound. The others seemed flat to me. But this must be a deformation due to habit and a certain inability to hear. This transition made me rediscover what it means to have a musical instrument under my fingers. There are certainly better pianos, because they are richer in possibilities. But in the end, what matters most is what you ask of your piano, more than what the piano can give. This is something I learned very late because, incredible as it is, none of my teachers was ever able to teach me what it meant to play a piano: searching for the sound, learning to find the sound you need, exploring what's possible. And I've never been musical enough to intuit it on my own. The instrument can be more or less rich in possibilities, but if you don't know how to ask the right questions, of it and of yourself, it's utterly useless. I owe my old piano more than a few apologies.

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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       Exactly. My mentor’s criterion is whether he can make music on the instrument. That’s all he asks.

    • Noel_Nguyen
    • 3 days ago
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    I absolutely love my Baldwin SD-10, built in the late 1970s and well maintained for all of its life so far. I love its powerful and vibrant yet warm sound. And yet I know its limitations. As I said during the concert chat today, I find its sound to be rather unidimensional although that word might be too harsh. I mean it is the perfect piano for Rachmaninoff and non-classical music, but I wouldn't want to record Chopin and especially not Ravel/Debussy on it for instance. This is not about dynamic range (I can play ppppp fairly easily on it), but rather about the sound character.  And yet it is unbeatable in what it does best.

    Truth be told, I don't know what my dream piano is. Probably the one that comes closest would be the Fazioli F308. But every single piano is different anyway!

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 3 days ago
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       This being said, the idea of chasing the perfect piano may be a rabbit hole. I'd much rather spend my efforts optimizing what I have. 

      It's a fun topic in any case. I especially like when I'm impressed with brands that are not always discussed in the "greatest piano" talks, such as Grotrian-Steinweg, Steingreaber, Schimmel, Sauter, Blüthner, and the golden age American brands such as prime Baldwin and Knabe.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       Have you ever played a Seiler?

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 3 days ago
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       I wish!

      There are many other top tier brands I would love to try. One particular brand I am very intrigued about is Stuart and Sons (from Australia).

      I know you own a Seiler. Have you tried their concert grand(s)?

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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      Have you heard of Paulello pianos? https://spaulello.com/

      This album was recorded on an Paulello Opus 102 (102 keys):

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OancDPM9fv8&list=OLAK5uy_kVRPESlX2meivh1kU3r00ABsQdxk7BiIM&index=7

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I have not played a Seiler grand, but I have played a Fazioli F308!

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 3 days ago
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       No, so thanks for introducing me to that brand! 

      Really when it comes to trying pianos I'm rather liberal😁. I think there is a way to make any piano sound good if it's in optimal condition. Even Samick (sorry Samick users, feel free to retaliate😅).

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I played 68 pianos while shopping for a piano in the fall. 

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 3 days ago
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       would you say a top Seiler model would be your dream piano?

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       Either that or a Bösendorfer Imperial 290. La Cathedrale Engloutie by Claude Debussy was written for an Imperial. 

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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      La Cathedrale Engloutie on an Imperial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRu6M8l6LAI

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      • clavierhaus_Vienna
      • 3 days ago
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       Stephen Paulello (a really nice guy and very competent pianist) is behind the design of the Hailun HG218 parlor grand which also exists under the Feurich brand. These grands are certainly the best bang for the buck both in terms of design, sound and manufacturing quality, easily matching with a Steinway C at 1/5th of its price.

      It just takes a really good technician to make it shine, but that is basically true of all grands.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I know.

    • Joseph_Derbas
    • 3 days ago
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    By far my favorite piano I have owned was a beautifully restored ebony 1930's Steinway Model A-3 (the A-3 was a 6' 41/2" model).  I happened across it at a Piano store in Chicago back in the early 1990's that I frequented near my work and got to know the sales person well, always playing their different pianos when I dropped by!  He landed up giving me a heads up that they were wanting to get the piano off their inventory and suggested a price that I actually questioned the  validity of since it was such a bargain.  (I bought him dinner as a thank you!!)  Our home had a large cathedral ceilinged dining and living room area that it fit perfectly in, and, most importantly sounded incredible in.  It played amazingly well and responsive. My piano tuner always said at the time it was one of his favorite pianos to service and play.  Amazing investment that I landed up selling when we sold that home and moved in to another place that just couldn't accommodate the size.  I'll always be partial to a Steinway!

    • Noel_Nguyen
    • 3 days ago
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    And come on, , we would love to know your answers to your suggested questions. Well, I would!😅

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I agree. I believe he is a Yamaha artist. 

    • Maria_F
    • 3 days ago
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    What is everyone's dream piano, and what is everyone's favorite piano they have played?

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 3 days ago
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      Dream: Fazioli F308 , until I try more!

      Favorites I've played: in descending order, the F308, a Hamburg Steinway D, my own Baldwin SD-10, a Shigeru Kawai SK-EX (fabulous but perhaps not versatile enough to my taste, a similar problem as my Baldwin but with a completely different sound range), and a Mason&Hamlin BB (my favorite piano of that size). I'll stop at five😅.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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      Dream piano: either Seiler 278 or Bösendorfer Imperial 290

      Favorite pianos I have played: Bösendorfer 225 (92 keys) and Seiler 132 (what I have)

      • www.narrowkeys.com
      • Linda_Gould
      • Yesterday
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       I played a Bosendorfer in the CBC recording studio in Vancouver in the 1970s.  It made me sound like a million dollars!

    • Maria_F
    • 3 days ago
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    There is a company called Edelweiss that makes very unusual pianos, including the shortest grand piano. 

    https://www.edelweisspianos.com/

    • Peter_William
    • 3 days ago
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    I am not an advanced player by any stretch of imagination. Had a Yamaha Clavinova at home for about 10 years. Played it off and on - very very elementary repertoire - could read a bit.  Then in June of 2023 I walked into a store in Raleigh and spend 2 hours trying out a few older pianos a 1930's Steinway, a Baldwin and a Kawai. I told the sales person that I didn't like the sound of these really old piano's , so she showed me new one a Essex ( entry model - has a Designed by Steiway - written on it :-) ) For some strange reason I really liked the sound and with great trepediation decided to buy it knowing fully well that my playing was far from deserving a baby grand 5ft 2". The store told me they would let me upgrade if I didn't like it for full cost. Got it delivered at home and have played almost every day. Gradually took some of most rudimentary classes at TB and am absolutely enjoying playing my piano. The repertoire has gotten slightly advanced as well. A fellow tonebase member - way higher level than me- heard me play a year ago and then a couple of weeks ago and said the playing  had come a long way.! Not sure if she was just being polite.. But I  do play everyday and enjoy the Essex - would absolutely recommend it for anyone.

      • Andrew_Smith
      • 3 days ago
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       Cool to hear that, Peter. Greetings from Winston-Salem (if you still live around Raleigh). 

      • Peter_William
      • Yesterday
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       yeah ! A fellow tonebase afficianado from the area . Yes I am 5 minutes from Duke University we should connect ! 

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