Piano Manufacturers and Brands: A discussion!

Hello Everyone! 

Here is a place for us to chat about our favorite pianos, questions, and general conversation!

 

What instruments have you loved playing lately? Which brands surprised you (in a good or bad way)? Have your preferences changed over time as your ears and technique developed?

 

Feel free to share:
• Your favorite grands or uprights you’ve played  
• Differences you notice between brands in touch or color  
• Hidden gems or underrated makers  
• Questions you have if you’re shopping or comparing instruments  

No right answers here — just experiences and impressions. Curious to hear what everyone is playing and why it speaks to you.

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    • Allen_Levine
    • 3 days ago
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    My favorite piano has always been a Steinway B. I own an L but always wanted a B. 

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       My favorite Steinway I have played was a B. 

      • Owner of the world's tiniest piano store
      • clavierhaus_Vienna
      • 3 days ago
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       The B was the second result of a massive redesign of Steinway grands by Theodore Steinway and his congenial partner. In 1885 the former 208cm was given an extra 3cm and a completely new scaling design that essentially still is in production today, except for the missing 3 keys that were introduced in 1892.

      The first in line of this complete model overhaul was the D in 1884 that had no real predecessor, since both the style/model III and the Centennial concert grands were based on a different design concept.

      The Bs from 1885 on followed the scaling design concept of the first 'real' Ds.

    • Josee_Asselin
    • 3 days ago
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    Mine is a Kawai RX2. I would love to have a Steinway or a Fazzioli, but I am satisfied financially with my Kawai 🙂. I prefer much more Kawai than Yamaha. The tone is more like velvet on a Kawai. 

    • Karen_Sam
    • 3 days ago
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    I have a Kawai Novus. It’s perfect for apartment practice, but I’d like an acoustic too. I fell in love with a beat up Grotrian, but it was too big. My dream maker is Steingraeber. I shall continue dreaming.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       Steingraeber makes interesting pianos. Which model is your favorite?

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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        No particular model. Even the uprights are beautiful.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       They have over 100 wood choices. 

      https://www.steingraeber.de/en/instrumente/custom-pianos/

      Have you listened to Guillaume Coppola's album Satie Amoureux? It was recorded on a Steingraeber. 

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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       😳 Wonder how much difference it makes to the sound.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I don't think it makes a difference. Seiler makes a slate piano, which I imagine sounds different. Bösendorfer, Steinway, Fazioli, and Schimmel also have "precious woods."

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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       No. Thanks for the info.

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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       Then I’d be most happy with the least expensive wood.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I think the default is polished black. They offer polished, satin, and oiled finishes. 

      I have a polished black and rosewood Seiler 132 with Super Magnetic Repetition. Steingraeber uprights have something similar to SMR.

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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       How much faster is the repetition? 

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I did a side-by-side comparison with a Bösendorfer 225, a Yamaha YUS5, and a Steinway D and there was not a significant difference in speed. The Yamaha was slowest, followed by the Steinway. I can play Erlkönig at full speed, which I think is 14 notes per second.

    • Vanessa_Ellermann
    • 3 days ago
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    My parents bought a Yamaha C-3 in the 1980s, which I played until just recently when I traded it in for a Yamaha YUS5. The YUS5 is an upright that has a digital component which allows me to play with headphones. I’m very happy with my purchase. When I can have a grand piano in my house again, I would love to purchase a Yamaha S7. 

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       S7 is my favorite Yamaha model. I played a YUS5 without the silent system once.

      • Karen_Sam
      • 3 days ago
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       Vanessa, which headphones are you using?

      • hot4euterpe
      • 3 days ago
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       The YUS5 is a quite a beautiful upright! I had one for three years until recently. I didn't have the silent system though but I know they are quite popular.

    • Maria_F
    • 3 days ago
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    I have a Seiler 132 with SMR (opposing magnets in the action to increase repetition speed), which we got in October. Seilers are definitely underrated.

    • Leon_Rasberry
    • 3 days ago
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    I like the old Baldwin upright and grand pianos.  They used to be at my college campus over 40 years ago, but Yamaha uprights dominate now days.  I have long fingers, but the Yamaha upright pianos have too stiff and too deep a key action for my taste.  I suppose I would live with the touch if I had a larger sized grand piano Yamaha Disklavier (or better yet Bosendorfer Disklavier).   I liked the lighter and more shallow key action on the Baldwin upright and grand pianos.    The old Mason & Hamlin and Aeolian pianos were perfect for my wider than average finger tip width; although, some old Steinway pianos accommodate my wide finger tips too.  

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       What do you have now?

      I used to have a Yamaha digital piano with a Bösendorfer setting.

      I think Bösendorfer actions are less stiff than Yamaha actions, but definitely heavier and deeper than Baldwin and Mason and Hamlin. Bösendorfer uses Renner actions, Yamaha and Baldwin make their own, and Mason and Hamlin uses Wessell, Nickel and Gross actions. 

      • Owner of the world's tiniest piano store
      • clavierhaus_Vienna
      • 3 days ago
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       Renner or not, Bösendorfer had a lot of hit and miss grands in the 60s and 70s that were excruciatingly hard to control. Obviously there was one engineer on board who put more lead into the action than normal which resulted in a higher inertia than found in any other piano.

      My teacher at conservatory had both a Steinway B and a Bösi 225 in his teaching room and I've only played the 225 once, never to return, because it hat this extremely uncomfortable action.

      I am blessed with a 225 from 1967 that was obviously finished by a different engineer and it's just wonderful to play it. Sheer luck.

      • Maria_F
      • 3 days ago
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       I have heard that. That was when they were owned by Kimball, right? 

      The Bösendorfers I have played have been well-regulated and easy to control.

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