Maintenance of Repertoire

I have taken lessons on and off during my adult life, after 15 years or so of constant lessons in my youth and through college. I have studied hundreds of pieces of music during that time, many of which were brought to a performance level...not Carnegie Hall, but comfortable playing in front of people, often without the score. I'm starting retirement, and intending to regain some of that facility. I'm interested to hear how others keep repertoire at a decent comfort level, if only to be satisfied in one's own performance of a given piece.  Is it unrealistic of me to want to keep a handful of Mozart and Beethoven Sonatas, for example, at a level where I can enjoy playing them for myself, family and friends?

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    • Beatriz_de_Mello
    • 6 days ago
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    I am curious too. As my school abruptly closed last semester, I was able to dedicate more time to intensive practice. This resulted in a few performances, either accompanying singers and violinists as well as playing Keys 2 in an off-Broadway show. I recently started to study with a Taubman method specialist. Even though I am learning how to overturn longstanding habits  that cause tension, I feel like this kind of study has put a damp on my regular practice… and I have more accompanying scheduled for next week! I wonder if any of you have gone through a similar situation and have advice as how to circumnavigate this… 
    Many thanks!

      • Matt
      • 6 days ago
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       When I started studying Taubman, I had this problem as well. My teacher even addressed it in one of the early lessons. (She mentioned a story about one famous pianist who had walked away from lessons with Dorothy Taubman for this reason.)  I had to just take time away from any kind of performance to really get familiar with the new techniques. I often felt like I was relearning everything! I recognize that taking a break like this is not always possible. I don't have any good suggestions, but I did want to say that I hear this problem is common. 

      • Tom_Herington
      • 5 days ago
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      Hi Beatriz. When I started to study the Taubman approach, I was advised to stop playing pieces that I had been learning or playing just for enjoyment while I was 'retraining,' After a period of weeks, I missed this pleasure, but for me the investment was well worth it as my playing became easier. I asked myself why I would want to continue to do what had caused tension or other problems when I was trying to learn a new way of playing that was much more helpful. It seemed counterproductive to set a goal and then to work against it. I would on occasion play a piece for pleasure, but for the most part I stuck to the recommended Taubman approach---which turned out to be a godsend for me.  The shorter-term 'sacrifice' has been well worth it.

      Just another perspective.

      • Blair_BooneMigura
      • 4 days ago
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       Yes, I also went through something similar when I started studying Taubman about 2 1/2 years ago. There was definitely an expectation to not play old repertoire and to not play anything else we were not actively working on. In. fact, even 2 1/2 years in my teacher prefers to only to work on new repertoire pieces with me. Now that I am playing with better technique, I have a desire to return to a few pieces that I used to play (albeit it never to my satisfaction) but my teacher says Dorothy Taubman's expectation was that you wait at least 7 years before returning to play older repertoire. It's an unfortunate side to retraining but the results are there. Personally, I feel that with proper guidance from a Taubman professional, one could actually do it, but that's just my personal feeling. I guess I'll have the pleasure of circling back to some older pieces I worked on in about 5 more years. :) Good luck to you as you deal with your own personal situation. 

      • Jeff_Woodruff
      • 3 days ago
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       Thanks for that insight, Blair. I guess it depends upon your overall goal in life with regards to the piano. To me, not being able to return to a piece for 7 years that you worked hard on and truly enjoyed playing seems harsh. Much of my enjoyment at the keyboard, and the reason that I have stayed at it for almost 60 years, is that I really enjoy the music. There are many pieces that I play that I have never listened to a professional recording of...which sounds crazy in today's digital world (in the old days we would have to invest in a record...) To not play the 2nd movement of the Pathetique, for example, at least once a month, would not work for me. 

      • Blair_BooneMigura
      • 3 days ago
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       Hi Jeff, I understand where you are coming from but I'll just add that the decisions about your work at the piano need not be so binary (even though many Taubman teachers present it that way). While you may not be able to work on music in the context of a lesson for 7 years as my Taubman teacher has advised based on something that either Dorothy and Edna determined, you should certainly feel free to play the music you love for pleasure in your own home. Personally, I work with singers and I can't tell a singer that I am not going to work with them on a piece I've already played because I'm retraining my piano technique. I still do work with them and I still do play pieces that I love for my own satisfaction. But, I do respect my Taubman teacher enough to agree to insist we study a piece I want to resurrect since I'm only 2 1/2 years into the retraining. What you do outside of the Taubman studio is your business is far as I'm concerned. That said, I've learned so much since studying Taubman so I do try to make most of my practice time meet the Taubman expectations. Just my perspective of course! 

      • Jeff_Woodruff
      • Yesterday
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       Hey Blair. Thanks for that clarification...not re-working a piece with a teacher makes perfect sense to me for that time-frame. 

    • jacopocastellano
    • 6 days ago
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    Hi Jeff, I also thought a lot about maintenance lately and there has been a very interesting live event on tonebase about this exactly: https://app.tonebase.co/piano/live/player/pno-maintaining-repertoire-2026. I would definitely recommend you to watch it if you didn't already.

    I attached a .pdf with the notes that I took, maybe they can be useful for you :-)

      • Dawn_Forde_Arno
      • 6 days ago
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      Thank you for your notes.  Very helpful. Much appreciated. 

      • Kathryn_K
      • 6 days ago
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      Very good summation of the session. Thank you for sharing it. 

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      • Steve_Coffey
      • 6 days ago
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      Excellent notes.  Thank you!

      • Adena_Franz
      • 6 days ago
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      Excellent summary, Jacopo. Thank you so much.

      • Jeff_Woodruff
      • 5 days ago
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       Thanks so much for sharing this, the link and your excellent notes. 

      • Andrew_Smith
      • 5 days ago
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       Thank you so much for these notes, and to Dominic for very very helpful advice.

    • Dawn_Forde_Arno
    • 6 days ago
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    Thank you for broaching this topic. Just yesterday I decided the answer is “Seriously with humility”. I’m reading and analyzing the score, playing through to uncover/discover what needs work, and becoming a “serious student” of me, myself and I who must assume the role of  “serious teacher” of a new beginner.  And I take good notes about my new pupil. 

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    • Steve_Coffey
    • 6 days ago
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    For me, it's about staying keenly aware of the difference between run through's and working/practicing.  I mark the hot spots in my scores that are in maintenance (or nearly learned) and then repeat those hot spots at the speed-of-no-mistakes until I get them under control.  It can be satisfying to work on a handful of tricky bits and then go back and play them well after a workout.  Before you know it, those will become the easy parts that are the most fun to play.

      • Jeff_Woodruff
      • 5 days ago
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       Thanks for your input. Through my working years, during times when I was not actively studying with a teacher, I nearly always fell into the "run-through" category, as a way of relaxing after a day of work. Now that I have more time I think that I need to gain some of your keen awareness...

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