Group 2

Fresh off the release of her tonebase course “Inside Mozart’s Piano Sonatas,” Orli Shaham is here to help take you to the next step with your Mozart playing.

 

This Intensive is meant for pianists who are currently working on a movement from one of Mozart’s 18 Sonatas. Whether you’re just getting started with the “Easy Sonata” K. 545, or are trying to polish one of his more virtuosic Sonatas, you WILL improve your improve your technique and interpretation of Mozart and Classical Sonata Form.

  • Sign-Up : Thursday, November 3rd at 8 am PST
  • Course Period: November 7 - 21st
  • Class Size: max. 4 Groups ĂĄ 10 Participants
  • Optional check-In via Zoom: Tuesday, November 15th, at 11:30am PT

 

Assignment 1

 

 

ASSIGNMENT: Pick a movement from one of Mozart's 18 Sonatas to focus on over the next 2 weeks. Begin applying the stylistic, musical, and technical tips Orli gives in her course lessons and assignment video (see below). Post your progress in this thread along with questions for Orli.
Video clips are encouraged but not required!
For less experienced players, you should start with the C major, K545 1st movement. There’s no obligation to finish a movement in 2 weeks – you might only get through a single passage, and that's okay! And overachievers are welcome to work on more than one movement.
What matters is how much you can develop your skills within whatever scope you’re comfortable with. If you’re working on a Fantasy, Rondo, Adagio, or other Mozart piece that’s not a Sonata, that’s fine. But we encourage you to study a movement from a Sonata as well.“Inside Mozart’s Piano Sonatas”:
https://app.tonebase.co/piano/home?tbModal=courseModal&tbModalSlug=orli-shaham-inside-mozarts-piano-sonatas
  • REQUIRED: (1) Watch the “Quick tips” video first, and try the warm up and exercises Orli recommends before your practice sessions; (2) Watch the Intro video on the History & Style of the Sonatas; (3) Watch the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd movement video corresponding with you sonata.

 

  • OPTIONAL: You may benefit from studying the video on “Ornamenting Mozart” and “Mozart in Minor,” to the extent that it applies to your piece.

Zoom link:

Join Zoom Meeting
https://us06web.zoom.us/j/85416214066?pwd=UkxPdGtya2FVRjA2RWxhYnRmcERFUT09

62replies 1 removed
{{batchActionsCtrl.state.selectedCount}} {{batchActionsCtrl.state.selectedCount==1?'reply':'replies'}} selected Move Cancel
Oldest first
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Active threads
  • Popular
  • Hi everyone,

    Here is my slow movement for K311. I always find the slow movements difficult, so intense yet I worry I’m just making it slow and dull. But I found the talk on slow movements very helpful- thank you so much Orla!

    I’ve included the end of the first movement to give the contrast. I know the right hand octaves are not great at the very end - still recovering from an injury. I should have perhaps chosen a movement without consecutive octaves!

    Looking forward to tomorrow’s lecture and hearing all the videos!

    https://youtu.be/3D_ksjwZoI0

    Reply Like 5
    • Angela Fogg Beautiful! I loved Orli’s lectures on this movement too. I am in Group 1, but couldn’t help but come and watch your lovely playing!

      Reply Like
    • Angela Fogg Nothing dull about that. You found a warmer tone as it went on. and I liked your smile at the end!

      Reply Like 1
    • Angela Fogg Nice playing, and love it that you end with a smile! 

      Reply Like
    • Vidhya Bashyam Thank you Vidhya - great to see you this evening. Looking forward to seeing your next video!

      Reply Like 1
    • Richard George Littlewood Thank you for listening so closely Richard!

      Reply Like
    • Natalie Peh Good to see you at the Zoom Natalie! Thank you for commenting!

      Reply Like 1
    • Angela Fogg Likewise, nice meeting you on Zoom!

      Reply Like
    • Angela Fogg Nice to see you too Angela! 

      Reply Like
    • Angela Fogg Beautiful playing, Angela! Nice work with this lovely movement! 

      Reply Like
    • Ben Laude
    • Head of Piano @ tonebase
    • Ben_Laude
    • 1 yr ago
    • Reported - view

    Mozart Group 2  For those waiting on the Zoom call, Orli and I are also waiting to get in. It will be just one moment!

    Reply Like
  • This could be my last recording before the weekend. I'll post another one if I can make another recording on Saturday. Sorry for the bad camera angle, I didn't notice that till I finished.

     

    I tried to push the tempo so there were some mistakes. It still needs a lot of polish.

    1) Fingering problems

    2) My hands were not relax enough to make through the "busy" parts because I couldn't pay attention to the details of both hands.

    3) Tempo is not stable

    4) Need to polish the phrasings.

    Reply Like 1
    • Heng-Pin Chen Very good. I enjoyed listening to that. Nice melody throughout and I liked the dramatic pauses. It flows very nicely. If I was going to criticise, and I feel a bit stupid doing so, because your technique is far better than mine, but the faster, busy sections I would play more quietly.

      Reply Like 1
    • Richard George Littlewood Yes, I agree. I need to be able to relax my hands/arms more in order to play softer, evener and more delicate. This piece still needs a lot of work. It's far from performance level yet.

      Reply Like
    • Heng-Pin Chen nice sense of drama Heng-Pin!

      Reply Like
  • https://youtu.be/1IhNU_KNQCY

     

    Still lots of work to do. I will try and post a final video on Monday.

    Reply Like 2
    • Richard George Littlewood Hi Richard, thanks for sharing your recording. You are getting it.

      One of my ways of practicing classical pieces was to use metronome to check whether my tempo was even and stable throughout. That helped me a lot to figure out where I speeded up or slowed down. 

      Besides, I have a question for you. In the attached 1st measure screenshot, I have note F for the circled 16th note. Is yours the same?

      Reply Like 1
    • Heng-Pin Chen Yes I have an F there. I don't always get the notes right so I might not have played it. I don't like to play at an even pace. I think music should allow for tempo changes.

      Reply Like 1
    • Richard George Littlewood It's a nice start of this not-so-easy sonata, Richard. I hope you have a good time practicing it!  

      Reply Like
    • Sindre Skarelven Thank you Sindre. Yes it`s pushing me right to my limits, the beginning of this Sonata. But I'm learning a lot.

      How about you? are you going to post something or have you been too busy?

      Reply Like
    • Richard George Littlewood I have been very busy these two weeks, but I will make a post right now! 

      Reply Like
  • I got time to make another recording, in a more comfortable tempo. However, I couldn't make much progress in two days. The fingering problems need more time to get everything under my hands. Relaxation is still the most critical issue. Pedaling is another focus.

    It's great to have the opportunity to focus my practice on this piece, and listen to my own recordings to find out more problems. Thanks a lot to this community.

    Reply Like 3
    • Heng-Pin Chen this sonata is so lovely. You've got some very nice phrasing there!

      Reply Like 1
    • Natalie Peh Thank you! I like this Sonata, whole Sonata.

      Reply Like
    • Heng-Pin Chen Great playing, Heng-Pin! You got a very nice touch and feel for this music! 

      Reply Like 1
    • Heng-Pin Chen Very enjoyable playing! It’s a great sonata. I love how there are shades of the beautiful second movement here.

      Reply Like 1
  • Spam
    • Remove post
    • Remove and block user
  • Edit
  • Publish
  • Unschedule
  • Cancel event
  • Uncancel event
  • Set status
    • Clear status
  • Pin
  • Unpin
  • Bump
  • Open replies
  • Close replies
  • Clear flags
  • Move
    • Move to category:
    • Start Here
    • Welcome to the tonebase Piano Community!
    • New To tonebase? Click Here!
    • Piano Level System
    • News & Announcements
    • General Discussions
    • Tonebase Lesson Discussions
    • Ask Me Anything - New Guests Every Month!
    • General Discussion
    • Your Practice Diary
    • Discussion of the Week
    • 4-Hand Piano Hub!
    • Live Streams and Events
    • Live Calendar
    • Community Concerts!
    • Community Suggestions
    • Upcoming Challenges and Two Week Intensives!
    • Live Discussion Archive
    • Hidden Thread Repository
    • Community Challenges
    • A Fresh Start!
    • The Practice Plan Challenge!
    • End of the Year Challenge: "Showcase Your Progress
    • Franz Liszt Birthday Challenge!
    • Unfinished Business Challenge!
    • Mini Challenges
    • Lyrical Miniatures: A Sonorous Journey feat. Grieg
    • Celebrating Tchaikovsky's Birthday!
    • Community Challenges / Challenge Archive
    • The Pillars of Piano Technique (Mini-Challenge)
    • Celebrate Rachmaninoff's Birthday Challenge!
    • "Music YOU Love" Community Challenge!
    • Finding Colors in your sound (Mini Challenge!)
    • Preparing your pieces for Concert - A Checklist!
    • Mozart & Haydn - Music from the 18th Century! 🏰
    • Improvising Classically with George Ko!
    • The Music of France!
    • "Improve your Technique!" Month
    • February: Discovering Schubert Month
    • Bach in March
    • LONGTERM ONGOING - Bach's Goldberg Variations
    • tonebase Community Concert Challenge
    • Brahms Waltzes Challenge!
    • Beethoven Variations Community Challenge!
    • Tonebase Holiday Challenge!
    • Liszt's SoirĂ©es de Vienne Community Challenge!
    • Handel G-major Chaconne
    • Two Week Intensives
    • TWI: Improving your Scales!
    • Crash Course on Controlling your Dynamics!
    • Intensive Workshop: Compose your own Piano Piece!
    • TWI: What makes Schubert GREAT with Ben Laude
    • Improving your ability with the Left Pedal
    • Improve your Cantabile Playing with Dr. Garritson
    • Improve your Chopin Mazurkas with Jarred Dunn!
    • Narrative Musicianship w/ Konstantin Soukhovetski
    • Improvising a simple ABA Piece with Jeremy Siskind
    • General Information and Sign-Up!
    • Public Spaces!
    • Two Week Intensives / Two Week Intensive Archive
    • Lesson discussion archive
    • "Improving your rhythm!": Beyond the Metronome
    • "Becoming an Orchestra" TWI with Daniela Bracchi
    • Bach's Polyphony Intensive with Magdalena
    • Improve your MOZART sonata with Orli Shaham!
    • Improving your Sightreading with Leann Osterkamp!
    • Improve your Chopin Etudes with Henry Kramer!
    • Improve your Arpeggios with Claire Huangci
    • Improve Your Harmonic Analysis with Ben Laude
    • Improve your Chopin Ornaments with Jarred Dunn!
    • Improve your Scales!
    • Ask a Friend
    • Recommendations
  • Copy
    • Copy to category:
    • Current category
    • Start Here
    • Welcome to the tonebase Piano Community!
    • New To tonebase? Click Here!
    • Piano Level System
    • News & Announcements
    • General Discussions
    • Tonebase Lesson Discussions
    • Ask Me Anything - New Guests Every Month!
    • General Discussion
    • Your Practice Diary
    • Discussion of the Week
    • 4-Hand Piano Hub!
    • Live Streams and Events
    • Live Calendar
    • Community Concerts!
    • Community Suggestions
    • Upcoming Challenges and Two Week Intensives!
    • Live Discussion Archive
    • Hidden Thread Repository
    • Community Challenges
    • A Fresh Start!
    • The Practice Plan Challenge!
    • End of the Year Challenge: "Showcase Your Progress
    • Franz Liszt Birthday Challenge!
    • Unfinished Business Challenge!
    • Mini Challenges
    • Lyrical Miniatures: A Sonorous Journey feat. Grieg
    • Celebrating Tchaikovsky's Birthday!
    • Community Challenges / Challenge Archive
    • The Pillars of Piano Technique (Mini-Challenge)
    • Celebrate Rachmaninoff's Birthday Challenge!
    • "Music YOU Love" Community Challenge!
    • Finding Colors in your sound (Mini Challenge!)
    • Preparing your pieces for Concert - A Checklist!
    • Mozart & Haydn - Music from the 18th Century! 🏰
    • Improvising Classically with George Ko!
    • The Music of France!
    • "Improve your Technique!" Month
    • February: Discovering Schubert Month
    • Bach in March
    • LONGTERM ONGOING - Bach's Goldberg Variations
    • tonebase Community Concert Challenge
    • Brahms Waltzes Challenge!
    • Beethoven Variations Community Challenge!
    • Tonebase Holiday Challenge!
    • Liszt's SoirĂ©es de Vienne Community Challenge!
    • Handel G-major Chaconne
    • Two Week Intensives
    • TWI: Improving your Scales!
    • Crash Course on Controlling your Dynamics!
    • Intensive Workshop: Compose your own Piano Piece!
    • TWI: What makes Schubert GREAT with Ben Laude
    • Improving your ability with the Left Pedal
    • Improve your Cantabile Playing with Dr. Garritson
    • Improve your Chopin Mazurkas with Jarred Dunn!
    • Narrative Musicianship w/ Konstantin Soukhovetski
    • Improvising a simple ABA Piece with Jeremy Siskind
    • General Information and Sign-Up!
    • Public Spaces!
    • Two Week Intensives / Two Week Intensive Archive
    • Lesson discussion archive
    • "Improving your rhythm!": Beyond the Metronome
    • "Becoming an Orchestra" TWI with Daniela Bracchi
    • Bach's Polyphony Intensive with Magdalena
    • Improve your MOZART sonata with Orli Shaham!
    • Improving your Sightreading with Leann Osterkamp!
    • Improve your Chopin Etudes with Henry Kramer!
    • Improve your Arpeggios with Claire Huangci
    • Improve Your Harmonic Analysis with Ben Laude
    • Improve your Chopin Ornaments with Jarred Dunn!
    • Improve your Scales!
    • Ask a Friend
    • Recommendations
  • Change type
    • Change topic type to:
    • Discussion
    • Question
    • Idea
    • Issue
    • Article
    • Event
  • Restore post
    • Spam
    • Offensive
    • Inappropriate
    • Duplicate
    • Other
  • Remove post
    • Spam
    • Offensive
    • Inappropriate
    • Duplicate
    • Other
  • Publish
  • Spam
    • Remove post
    • Remove and block user
  • Edit
  • Pin
  • Unpin
  • Open replies
  • Close replies
  • Label
    • Clear label
  • Move
  • Clear flags
  • Restore post
    • Spam
    • Offensive
    • Inappropriate
    • Duplicate
    • Other
  • Remove
    • Spam
    • Offensive
    • Inappropriate
    • Duplicate
    • Other
Like Follow
  • 1 yr agoLast active
  • 62Replies
  • 166Views
  • 9 Following

Home

View all topics