Week 2: How to Achieve Left Hand Balancing at the Piano with Dr. Eloise Kim!

Welcome to Week 2 of the latest Two-Week Intensive!
For Week 2, Eloise has curated an assignment to work on below.

1. Please view Eloise's video

2. Work on the exercises!

3. Post your progress and video so that Eloise can observe and provide further feedback!

 

Video Link: 

https://youtu.be/zwTsXWKIwWU

 

Assignment: Pick a short excerpt of a work that features the LH in an accompaniment style (i.e.: excerpt of a Classical Sonata, Chopin Nocturne, Waltz, anything you are currently learning). Select four to eight measures of this work and take these three steps below for this LH exercise:

 

  1. Practice the LH alone with sensitivity to your touch and apply the soft-playing techniques discussed in my video. Repeat this process until you find the right sound world and evenness in your LH touch of your selected excerpt.

  2. After achieving the right muscle memory for your LH soft playing, add the RH "shadow." While the LH is physically playing the same way from step 1, the RH will now be "shadowing" over the melody notes. This will be a challenge! 

  3. Final step: add everything together. Play both hands together with a singing RH melodic line and a LH supportive accompaniment.

The above steps of this exercise are explained in my video starting at 10:16. For best self-assessment, it will be helpful to video record your practice of this full process. You are welcome to send me a video a recording of your practice process or ask me any questions for feedback!

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  • Very nice! And quite a challenge. Thank you for using Chopin Op 9, No. 1.

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    • Pat Van Buskirk Wonderful to have you, Pat! The Chopin Nocturne is a gorgeous piece indeed :) Thank you for joining this challenge, and feel free to share me any video links of your practice process!

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  • Hello Tonebase Piano Community! Great to work with you here :) If you have any questions about the assignment, please write your comments here. And feel free to share a video link of your practice process!

    Happy Practicing :D

    Eloise

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    • Michelle R
    • Michelle_Russell
    • 5 days ago
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    Thank you! I'm a beginner currently working on the Clementi op 36 no 1 sonatina - this will be great for the second and third movements. 

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    • Michelle R Hi Michelle! Yes, that is a fantastic selection to apply this practice to. Feel free to share me any video links of your practice process :)

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 4 days ago
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      Eloise Kim Hi! Thanks so much. I've made a couple of recordings - here is the most recent one of the first few measures of the 2nd movement of the Clementi. I'd noticed in previous ones that when my wrist dropped below a certain level, I had less control over the sound (so I'm watching my wrist while I record in this one). I'm going for a slight overlap in the LH legato. The evenness of sound is better than the first recording I made, but it's still not quite where I want it. I've experimented with how I depress the key, tried using more/less arm movement, flatter fingers vs. rounder, and been more careful of wrist height. I'll experiment more tomorrow - I think I'm closing in on what is going to work here.

      https://youtu.be/xHq04RzIw2M?si=tP6y_SAVNr5xinSW

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    • Michelle R Fantastic work, Michelle! This sounds great! I love how you are experimenting with different techniques in the LH of finding that right sound world. It definitely takes a lot of what I call "trial and error," and finding the "right" muscle memory. And then applying what worked successfully. You are doing great in this video, and I like the sound world you are achieving--great work. This LH accompaniment requires a little more elevated wrist height as you mention because of the thumb (I know Piotr focused on the RH thumb last week :D), which is our heavy finger. An elevated wrist can help lighten that thumb weight naturally as well. Your hand position and approach to the keys look excellent to me. As a next step, try 'shadowing' the RH along with it, and let me know how it goes :)!

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 3 days ago
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      Eloise Kim Thanks so much for your feedback. Here’s a quick recording with the right hand “ghosting.” There are a couple of spots where I’m not happy with the sound: downbeat of measure 3 (where 5th finger has to move from f to c) is one spot where it feels and sounds a little clunky. I’ll keep working!

      An interesting side effect of spending so much time on the LH is the transition in measure 4, where the LH trades off to the RH - I found that it was suddenly much smoother than it had been. 

      TB TWI LH recording 2 (ghosting RH)
      https://youtu.be/j6rjTif8seA

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    • Michelle R Great work Michelle! I am impressed with your ability to maintain a nice control in the LH while ghosting the RH notes. This is definitely trickier to do than playing just the LH alone, but my personal philosophy behind this is, "if we can do it successfully in the harder way, than it will be easier when we play the passage in the 'normal' way: when both hands play together😄." Also the 'ghosting' technique helps us still 'activate' the RH muscle memory of the notes. Very good work!

      I also want to mention (for everyone) that although this week's focus is on the "LH technique" of accompaniment style playing; When we play both hands together, we will have to keep in mind of the different amounts of weight and speed of attack that will be applied in each individual hand to achieve the appropriate balance.

      I hope this exercise continues to be helpful for your Clementi! Please let me know if you have any questions I can further explain or elaborate on! 🙂

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 2 days ago
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      Eloise Kim Thank you! My teacher has me use this ghosting technique (and a more simple one, too) often when I'm learning a piece, so it's not new to me. And I'm in the polishing up period with this particular piece, so it is generally pretty well learned.

      I'll record hands together before the week is over. Thanks so much for all your tips and encouragement. 

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    • Michelle R That is fantastic that you have already been doing ghosting technique with your teacher! I look forward to hearing your next video of the hands together. Happy practicing! Thank you again for taking this challenge and sharing your hard work! 🎉

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  • I’m working on the Barber Nocturne. This exercise is more difficult than I thought it would be and I now have discovered that my LH is less even on the descending passages and some notes do not sound enough. Also my #2 finger when crossing over the thumb in ascending passages is sometimes too loud. This is a good exercise for getting me to slow down and really listen.

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    • Ellen Weaver Hi Ellen! I am glad to hear you are finding this exercise a helpful challenge for you :) The Barber Nocturne is indeed a challenging LH with the wide leaps, and keeping that soft playing in that particular LH is tricky to do. I would advise practicing the LH alone slowly in small fragments at a time and with sensitive attention to your sound and balancing. You can 'experiment' with your technique and see what helps achieve the best sound world. Physically staying closer to the keys, and the application of that 'spider crawl' that I mention for the Chopin Nocturne in my video, can be similarly applied to the LH of the Barber. Happy practicing, and let me know if you have any further questions!

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    • Helen Lee
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    • 3 days ago
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    Thanks so much for the exercise Eloise Kim . Here's my first attempt at this. (Link below). I worked on bars 9-16 of Variation XI of Mozart's Ah, vous dirai-je Maman. I always felt as though my left hand was too loud and the right hand melody had to sing more. At the first step, I worked on looking for the sound that I wanted to create but am not entirely sure what that should be.  The shadowing was pretty challenging! Controlling my LH was harder. Thanks for your feedback. 

     

    https://youtu.be/x2gTUtHyso8

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    • Helen Lee Wonderful work, Helen! Your step by step approach in this video is very well done and executed successfully! I agree that shadowing the RH simultaneously makes the control of the LH harder, but you did it beautifully well.  In this measures 9-16 of Variation XI, it has a similar accompaniment style to the Mozart d minor fantasy I demonstrate in my video of that 'pulsing' beats. Continue to stay physically very close to the keys and finding that right 'slower' speed of attack at the keyboard to approach a soft yet healthy and warmer tone. :) As you are already showing in your video, both hands are playing with a different action and weight to the piano to achieve that balance of a singing RH melody line and LH accompaniment. I encourage you to continue exploring other areas of the Mozart to apply this as well :) Great work-Thank you for your video!

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      • Helen Lee
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      Eloise Kim Thanks so much for your feedback, Dr. Kim! I tried this practice technique on different sections of the variation -- especially the one where I have been fretting about the LH part. I think Step 1 (finding the right tone and figuring out how to create it) is where I'm still struggling. I think I would like the first note of the clusters of 16th notes to stand out more and the rest of the following 3 16ths to be quieter. But would love any insights you might share in terms of how to think about the sound I should be looking for. I find it even more challenging to be physically close to the keys with this part compared to the portion of Variation XI that I previously posted. Thank you again for this wonderful intensive course. 

       

      1. Mozart K. 265, Var II, Bars 1-8. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5wMfGropT4U

      2. Var II, Bars 9-18 https://youtube.com/shorts/5wMfGropT4U?feature=shar
       

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    • Helen Lee Hi Helen! Thank you for taking this challenge to a different variation of the Mozart! This Variation II is definitely tricky particularly because of the speed the LH requires, as it is one of the faster variations of the set. I like your interpretation of emphasizing the first of the sixteenth note clusters. This adds in a more 'confident playfulness' character one often hears in many of Mozart's works. He in fact was a big opera composer, so the more variety of characters we can portray in our piano solo pieces, the better it is 🙂

      I would encourage you to use a bit more relaxed wrist in this particular LH passage with also a more rounder hand position to portray an even more 'brilliant' sound technically. Especially when we have the leaps, the wrist should lead with a relaxed movement. The forearm of the left arm can also be facing slightly outward to give you more of an 'open' posture. I like to tell my students to feel the entire shoulder, arm, and hand as one bone together.

      When you have the cross-overs in the LH using the 1-2-1-2-1-2-1 fingerings at the end of each measure, those are the notes we want to be particularly light with--so playing with an almost detached touch as you quicken up the speed can be helpful.

      I thought at the end of the video when the RH joined in, the balance sounded great! I love this piece and so happy you are working on it. Keep up the great work!

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    • Randi
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    Hello Eloise Kim  . Thanks for the video and lesson. I am working on Clair de Lune. It's a little beyond me, but I'm working through it. I used bars 29-30 for your lesson. Here are my videos. Thanks for any input you have.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/jJ6PaeomSe0?si=uPiqNYJ0-ZUB7zK2

    https://youtube.com/shorts/orJPsEJuH_I?si=s8I6b3phXN5N8Ih_

    https://youtube.com/shorts/6jEVkLmw62I?si=xgvNZD6cD-Inw2D3

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    • Randi Hi Randi! This looks great, and wonderful work to you! Thank you for sharing your practice videos. This Debussy's Clair de Lune section you selected is definitely an area when we need to project our RH melody with a accompanying LH. The LH here spans quite a long distance at the keyboard even within these two measures, and your technical approach to the touch looks and sounds great! I would advise to also try practicing at a slower speed (LH alone) to experiment with different touches to continue maintaining more evenness and control of the keys. You could take this challenge further into m. 31-32 when the RH splits the sixteenth, and apply the same approach here as well. I am so happy you are learning the Clair de Lune, and I send my cheers! Thank you for taking this challenge. 🙂

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    • Marc M
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    Hello Eloise Kim! Thank you for the video and for leading this part of the session. The "shadow" practice technique is super helpful...it's funny how much the left hand tone suffers when first trying it. I look forward to applying it to everything, haha.

    Here's my video of the assignment applied to Poulenc's 3rd movement perpetuel, FP 14, which I started a couple weeks ago. I chose a section that's been giving me some trouble because it's pretty leapy in both hands. It still needs more work and I suspect I'll need to carefully plan my eye movement for this section. (Getting this piece up to the marked 138 bpm is going to be a challenge...)

    https://youtu.be/4cHXCeB6GV8

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    • Marc M Hi Marc! Thank you for taking this challenge, and sharing a great practice video! I like the process you are taking in detail steps at a time with the LH: achieving both the light sound world and tackling the challenging leaps. I also like how you are mapping out which is the more 'tricky' section within the excerpt you are working on, and targeting that technique. I am hearing improvements within this video already! This particular LH also needs to be played with a playful manner, and requires a lot of 'quick preparation' ahead of time to the next notes/intervals. Particularly focusing on leading with the thumb (for velocity) in the LH jumps can be helpful too when you take it faster up to speed. 

      This piece is definitely very hard to do with the RH shadowing as it requires activating a new muscle memory, but I felt that at the end of the video, you achieved a great sound balance when both hands played together.👍 I encourage you to try this challenge on other areas of the Poulenc, which you have a great start in already! Let me know if you have any questions that come along the way too 🙂

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      • Marc M
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      Eloise Kim Thank you for the note! I'll work on the 'quick prep' and leading with the thumb in that section especially...I'm sure it will be a big help. If I can manage to squeeze in enough practice time in the coming days I'll post an update!

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  • Thanks  Dr Kim for such a informative video and useful exercise. It is perfect timing that I am learning chopin B flat minor nocturne right now. It is a very challenging piece for me. Here is my exercise video. Second exercise is super difficult. But it really highlights the unevenness of my left hand. I am not sure if I should practice with pedal for the third one. I appreciate any feedback and practice tips. It is so difficult with all the polyrhythms. 

    1: https://youtu.be/sZK5Jch4gvM?si=IBVtr1X8bA-GU_hH

    2: https://youtu.be/hjA-9QQP1Jc?si=3AwO_XmNK7uokL20

    3: https://youtu.be/sHYCOIb6Jbo?si=3x30OiOruLv5bsi4

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    • rebecca LAM Hi Rebecca! Welcome to the intensive, and what a wonderful coincidence that you are working on this Chopin Nocturne! It is a beautiful piece, and certainly quite a challenging one.

      Your practice videos look great, and thank you for taking the correct steps. I like the sound world you are achieving with the LH, and you move with a nice relaxed arm which is required for this piece. The touch also sounds wonderful too.

      It is indeed very tricky to shadow the RH in this piece because of the polyrhythms. The challenge also is to make sure the RH is 'hovering/shadowing' around the correct pitches of when they are supposed to be played. For the polyrhythms, I would suggest to first play strictly in time and marking in the score with a plan of exactly how you will like to line up the notes in the hands. For example at measure 2, this is an "11 against 6" because the RH has 11 notes with LH playing 6 eighth notes. In the end, Chopin meant for this to be 'free' sounding, and most performances of this nocturne slow the LH down naturally when the polyrhythms enter.

      But for practicing purposes, it will be helpful to plan out a strict map first before adding freedom. For example in measure 2, since it is an 11 against 6: you could line up around two RH notes per single LH note and leave one of the set as a two against three. The next polyrhythm in measure 3 is a 22 against 12 (22 notes in the RH and 12 notes in the LH), which ends up being two 11 against 6's altogether. I am sending a picture of one way these two measures can be lined up in the hands and highlighted in orange where I would enter the 'two against three's', but I want to emphasize that this is not the only way to do it! I am only giving one of million suggestions :).

      The balance between the hands sounded great to me at your third practice video. I encourage you to also practice slowly in the same above steps, because slow practice in this piece is very helpful in many passages. And yes, practicing the third step without pedal first will be a good extra step to hear more clearly of everything that is going on. Thank you for taking this challenge, and best wishes for your learning journey! let me know if any other questions come up along the way.

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    • Eloise Kim thank you so much for the feedback and the very helpful practice tips. It is still working progress but here is my attempt. 
      https://youtu.be/N9e17oI4e8c?si=7uDJPHLPnvq9gukI

      https://youtu.be/bFTS48lYxAs?si=USnwAs9H1UcIlM24

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