How to Gauge if a Piece is within your level or not?

Hello. I'm choosing my next piece to study but I'm not sure how to determine if it's within my level. 

 

For context, I'm a bit of a beginner. I've done the following pieces:

1. Moonlight Sonata by Beethoven

2. Chopin - Waltz in A Minor

3. Chopin - Nocturne in A E Flat Major - but not yet fully mastered

4. Passacaglia

 

Any pieces to recommend? Except the following

1. Fur Elise

2. Gymnopedie

 

Thank you

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  • Have you tried Schumann Kinderszenen?

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  • Determining if a piece is within your level or not is not an easy task and also saying if music A is easier or harden than B can be misleading. For example, there are easier pieces, but with octaves. For someone with big hands this is easy, for someone with smaller hands it would be more advanced, because it will require more training.

     

    Usually, teachers have a pretty good feeling of what a student is capable of doing and also knows a good repertoire tested and used for students for different levels.

    If you are studying without a teacher, it is also a difficult task to say your level by the pieces you are playing. The reason is (1) we don鈥檛 know if you play them well for someone at an adequate level to be learning them (if you play 90% of it well, but goes terribly bad in an harder passage of it, it is a sign that it is above your level, since usually the level of a piece is given by its harder section) (2) it is always possible to learn well a piece a level above yours, but it will take just much more time (so, one advice in choosing a repertoire is choosing most things at your level and also below and maybe once in a while one that is just in the next level).

     

    With all the disclaimers above, if you go to the website of Henle (it is a famous sheet music publisher), they give levels to musics in their catalogue. As I said, level is not set in stone, it is just someone giving grades that would not be judged the same for everyone.

     

    To me there is a conflicting message when you say you are quite a beginner and on the other hand looking the pieces you say you play (pardon me if I鈥檓 wrong). Usually, someone playing those pieces would already have developed a so so sense of what is within their range.

     

    What I recommend doing to gauge your level is: look at the level of your pieces at Henle, start with the one with the lowest grade of them. Check other pieces in the same level, do you feel you can play them? If it is clearly too easy, check the next grade. If it is too hard, look a level below. When you feel it is within your level, check the pieces a level below to make a reality test, do you feel very comfortable playing them? (Like, in 1h training them, would you make something that already looks like music with something below your level? Do you think with your daily practice routine, the pieces one level lower than yours, would you take them to a good level very quickly as to get a bunch of them done too fast so you change repertoire too fast? This fast is very subjective, I work with repertoire for one semester, so to me easier pieces could be done in 2-3 months of normal training, the ones at my level would take about 4 to 6 (and sometimes more, because I may take more time to solve technical problems for a specific piece, one example of the imperfection of level gauging - but a necessary part of your learning cycle to evolve) months to be taken to a recital. [please notice that this is just an example, it is within my personal goals, the amount of practice I can have, etc. May be unrealistic or too slow depending on the person].

     

    I hope this helps.

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      Eduardo Hiramoto 

      This is one of the most practical suggestions to judge one's level of ability I have ever seen.

      Well stated and thank you.

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    Check pianosyllabus.com

    Moonlight Sonata and the Nocturne are definitely no beginner pieces. 

    As you only mentioned a handful of pieces, it seems to me that you are self taught? Correct me if I am wrong.

    I started self taught, so I know how easy it is to chose pieces that are far too advanced,  which hinders our progress tremendously! For me it was F眉r Elise... I started it after 6 months of self learning,  and I think it took me at least 6 months ro get all the notes somehow in the right timing. I felt proud and like "I can play F眉r Elise now". But actually all I could was press keys at the appropriate moment. Which is maybe 20% of what is "knowing the piece". And then I started a new one and forgot F眉r Elise again. 

    It was fun, though,  I don't really regret it. But it was a waste of time also. I could have had as much fun with many pieces my level and progress, instead of drilling muscle memory of ONE piece.

    However as I didn't have a teacher I had no clue where to start, and the pieces in my European Piano Method Book were childish or I didn't like them very much. And older things that say "beginner" felt just as overwhelming. Because they are. Burgm眉ller has only 2 grade 2 pieces, all others are 3-5! That's not foe people who just started. Same for "Beginner" or "children" books by other composers... most are for what we consider (early) intermediate now. 

     

    Have you played any other pieces than the ones you mentioned? If not, they are definitely too advanced for you. Check the website I mentioned and look for pieces grade 1-3 if you are a real beginner with less than 3 years of learning. There is so much beautiful music out there, public domain music you can download for free then at imslp.com

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