Tonebase Bach Stage

This thread is dedicated to J.S. Bach keyboard music. We would like to renew the inspiring spirit of the old thread "Group-Journey through J.S. Bach" based on the inventions and extend to the entire Bach repertoire: inventions, preludes, fugues, toccatas, dances of the Suites and Partitas...

This is for everyone who wants to join!

We can enjoy Bach music together and motivate each other in the process of learning and practicing it!

 

"I begin every day with Bach - usually for about an hour. I used to torture myself with Czerny, which of course wasn't exactly stimulating for the mind. On the other hand, it teaches you the fingering for a B flat major scale, chromatic thirds, and so on. The daily grind of learning. Later, I discovered that I could get my 'training' under way better with Bach - a refreshment for the body, soul and spirit". (András Schiff, Music Comes Out of Silence, p. 21)

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    • Michelle R
    • Michelle_Russell
    • 2 mths agoThu. January 2, 2025 - 12:00 am
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    Happy New Year! Here is the little piece I’ve been working on from the Anna Magdalena Notebook. Thanks for creating this forum,  Juan Carlos ! It’s such a joy to check in on everyone playing Bach. 

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 mths agoThu. January 2, 2025 - 1:24 pm
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      Michelle R beautiful playing, Michelle! Great.job!

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 2 mths agoThu. January 2, 2025 - 6:18 pm
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      Juan Carlos Olite Natalie Peh Thank you! 

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      • Peter Golemme
      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 1 mth agoSun. February 16, 2025 - 2:43 pm
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      Michelle R Very nicely played Michelle.  With pieces like this you are showing that you are well on your way to developing independence of the hands and the ability to sustain two different melodic lines at once. Bach never wastes an opportunity to teach us something in every single piece he writes.

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 1 mth agoSun. February 16, 2025 - 6:37 pm
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      Peter Golemme Thanks so much, Peter. I thoroughly enjoy playing Bach, even though I find it challenging always! I'm learning a new Bach right now, and my teacher and I were discussing articulation, and he commented on how transparent the music of Bach is and how exposed we are as players. There is no where to hide! I'm really looking forward to being able to play more and more Bach.

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    • Peter Golemme
    • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
    • Peter_G
    • 2 mths agoFri. January 10, 2025 - 9:57 pm
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    Happy New Year to all.  What better way to start fresh than by opening to page 1 of the Well Tempered Clavier?  Here's my take on the Prelude in C Major from Book 1.  I've added some commentary in the YouTube comments for those interested in such stuff.  If you have any thoughts on the points raised there, I'd love to hear your thoughts please feel free to share, either here or there!

     

    https://youtu.be/13yLkrSQ3LU

     

    And here is the Fugue, again with some (un)learned commentary:

     

    https://youtu.be/aUr2P-gghQU

     

    BTW there is a great Tonebase lesson on this pair by Evan Shinners, with some of his points referred to in a few places in my comments.

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 1 mth agoSun. February 16, 2025 - 6:48 pm
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      Peter Golemme Delightful playing, Peter. My piano teacher just set me off on an adventure of listening to the works of Bach for solo instruments (cello suites, etc), as they can teach me a lot about how to play Bach on the piano. One video I came across for the 1st Cello Suite was an interpretation class by Benjamin Zander (conductor, and all-around joyful guy) in which he used the C Major Prelude as a stepping off point for a way of interpreting the Cello suite. It was intriguing.

      And is it as much fun to play a fugue as it sounds? I know it's challenging, but there is such a joy and lightness in your playing that I imagine you are having a blast! Thanks so much for sharing.

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 12 days agoThu. March 20, 2025 - 5:57 am
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      Peter Golemme beautiful playing! You are too modest! I enjoyed your prelude, it always comes across differently, and much better, when played with an appreciation of the harmony, as you do. The fugue is lovely too, the melodies sing clearly and special mention for the different camera angles, which change in a very synchronised way with the music.  Thank you so much for sharing your work with us!

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      • Peter Golemme
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      • Peter_G
      • 12 days agoThu. March 20, 2025 - 11:15 am
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      Natalie Peh Thanks for listening & for the feedback Natalie.  I'm almost ready to post another -- the F# minor from Book 2..  Having a devlishly difficult time with the memorization and getting an acceptable performance, but it's time to commit to video and move on.

      I've been amazed to discover the video recording software that's out there for free (or very inexpensive), and trying to educate myself on the features, especially the multicam, which allows you to synchronize multiple recordings from different angles and switch between them.  For this recording, I rounded up every device in the household capable of recording video - 2 laptops, my phone, my iPad and an old Olympus hand held video recorder -- and perched at various spots around the piano. I then imported their recordings into the video software (LumaFusion for iPad in this case), and synchronized them.  Then you can switch between the angles wherever you would like. It has several built in transition effects, such as cross-dissolve, zoom, fade out, etc., so you don't have to figure out how to do that.  You just choose the transition you want to use and the length of time to get from Clip A to Clip B & the software does the rest.  It's been yet another learning curve, as I drag myself kicking and screaming into the digital age, but great fun nonetheless.  How I would have loved to have access to this technology when I was younger! 

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      • Peter Golemme
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      • Peter_G
      • 12 days agoThu. March 20, 2025 - 11:32 am
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      Michelle R Dear Michelle, thank you very much for your comments. Your teacher sounds very wise, and you are in for a treat if you were not previously familiar with the solo suites. You'll hear multiple simultaneous melodies plus ongoing harmonies, emerging from an instrument playing a (for the most part) single note at a time! they are breathtaking and beautiful, every single one of them.

      I've met Benjamin Zander in person (though he probably doesn't remember me). He's really a delightful and generous-spirited person, and a proseletizer (sp?) for the education of young musicians and concertgoers. He always puts together fascinating programs with the Boston Philharmonic and Youth Orchestra, championing young musicians and giving the most interesting talks about the repertoire as part of his concerts.

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      • Peter Golemme
      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 12 days agoThu. March 20, 2025 - 11:50 am
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      Michelle R And yes, it is truly exhilerating to be able to play multiple voices simultaneously in counterpoint. I've been fascinated by counterpoint since I first learned about counterpoint in one of Leonard Bernstein's priceless televised "Young Peoples Concerts" in the early 60's, featuring Bach's "little Fugue" in G minor.  I was astonished.

      I also remember from around the same time a Rice Krispie's commercial, where each of Snap, Krackle and Pop sang a different tune extolling their respective sounds.  THEN they combined all three in a single counterpuntal melange! I sat bolt upright  when I first heard it and was spellbound every time it came on.  I later learned that we could produce such effects on the piano through the Well Tempered Clavier and became totally hooked. 

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 12 days agoThu. March 20, 2025 - 3:06 pm
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      Peter Golemme yes, my teacher is pretty special. He teaches historical improvisation, too, and I’ve just begun learning about counterpoint (writing above a Cantus Firmus).

      Is this the commercial?

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      • Peter Golemme
      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 12 days agoThu. March 20, 2025 - 5:11 pm
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      Michelle R OMG that’s the commercial!!  Isn’t that amazing? Transports me right back to my childhood.

       

      Some very well educated  musician laboring in the back room of an ad agency must’ve put that together, and somehow, miraculously, got it past all the reviewers at the agency as well as Kellogg’s.  

       

      Thank you so much for tracking that down. I assume you got it off the Internet?! I Had no idea that stuff was like that was out there.

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      • Natalie Peh
      • Natalie_Peh
      • 10 days agoSat. March 22, 2025 - 1:41 am
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      Michelle R thanks for sharing, this video is awesome! 

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    • Peter Golemme
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    • Peter_G
    • 2 mths agoFri. January 10, 2025 - 10:14 pm
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    AND... while we're at it, what better way to close the book on last year than with the final Prelude and Fugue from Book 2? 

    Here's the B minor Prelude, again with some interminable commentary for you to ponder:

    https://youtu.be/9r8SZGCSICk

    And what's a Prelude without a Fugue to follow?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/q7388Vc_sLA

     

    In my trek through the WTC, I'm working my way inward from the perimeters, while also stopping occasionally to pick one from the middle. F# minor from book 2 coming next soon.

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      • Vidhya Bashyam
      • vbashyam
      • 2 mths agoFri. January 10, 2025 - 10:39 pm
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      Peter Golemme One of my favorites! Great playing.

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      • Andrea Buckland
      • Andrea_Buckland
      • 2 mths agoFri. January 10, 2025 - 11:07 pm
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      Peter Golemme Wow! Great to hear your playing and thanks for keeping this thread alive with multiple Preludes and Fugues at once! Happy New Year, Peter! 

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      • Peter Golemme
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      • Peter_G
      • 2 mths agoSat. January 11, 2025 - 12:53 pm
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      Vidhya Bashyam Thank you Vidhya. Interesting to hear that it's one of your favorites.  You always focus in on and select some of the most interesting pieces to work on, & I've learned a lot from your Tonebase offerings. Some commentators have expressed disappointment that Bach did not end Book 2 with a large-scale all-encompassing work like the B minor of Book 1. But I think of this as almost an encore, following all the deep learned-ness that has preceded it. , Fun, bright, lively, and yet still a dazzling display of compositional technique, showing off how he can even use "faulty" contrapuntal techniques to create a perfectly contstructed fugue.

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      • Peter Golemme
      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 2 mths agoSat. January 11, 2025 - 1:03 pm
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      Andrea Buckland Thank you Andrea, both for your comments and for listening.  I love this thread (thanks again JCO for setting it up!) and check it almost daily for inspiration. I'm aware that I've talked a lot about my WTC journey but have not had much to post so far! I'm optimistic about 2025, that I'm going to have much more time for music, as my day job is winding down into full retirement... I have revisited your lovely, lyrical F# Major Fugue on this thread several times.  I've read through that one and worked out most of the fingering, and can't wait to learn it myself in earnest, when my pilgramge gets me to that site.  The F# Major from Book 2 is also beautiful and amazing (but really, are there any in the WTC that are not so?), and it might be interesting to do those as a pair.

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 2 mths agoSat. January 11, 2025 - 3:14 pm
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      Peter Golemme Gorgeous playing in these Preludes and Fugues, Peter! I like the steadily sense of rhythm and the beautiful clarity of the voicing lines, it's an extraordinary way of playing Bach. Thank you so much for sharing them and, as Andrea said, keeping this thread alive 😊.

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      • Peter Golemme
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      • Peter_G
      • 2 mths agoMon. January 13, 2025 - 2:34 pm
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      Juan Carlos Olite Thank you Juan Carlos.  I'm glad to hear some of that might be coming through! I certainly struggle achieve it.

      I continue to find illuminating things in your Goldberg variations, in addition to amazement at the steady stream of material you are churning out, as well as deepening awe and wonder about JSB. Even within this single piece (the Goldberg V's) he is encyclopediac and all encompassing in his approach to composition.

      And yes, we've got to keep this thread alive! For one reason, I've got 90 more pieces to get through before I'm done with the WTC! and I continue to learn something from every single person's postings.  

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    • Juan Carlos Olite
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    • Juan_Carlos
    • 1 mth agoThu. February 6, 2025 - 4:40 pm
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    Variation number 29, one of the joyful, exuberant, moments in this masterpiece (btw, did Bach invent something like rock and roll here?  One of the hardest too; well we are among friends, aren't we 🤔?...

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      • Peter Golemme
      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 1 mth agoSun. February 16, 2025 - 2:38 pm
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      Juan Carlos Olite Wonderful variation and performance Juan Carlos.  It's like a mini seminar in ways to share a musical line across two hands. It took real courage to undertake this variation and I think you pull it off really well! Keep up the good work!

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      • Vidhya Bashyam
      • vbashyam
      • 1 mth agoSun. February 16, 2025 - 6:10 pm
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      Juan Carlos Olite Beautiful brilliant playing! This one looks especially virtuosic.

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 1 mth agoSun. February 16, 2025 - 6:33 pm
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      Juan Carlos Olite Terrific, Juan Carlos! This does look especially difficult, but you play it well and with gusto!

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 1 mth agoTue. February 18, 2025 - 2:37 pm
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      Peter Golemme Vidhya Bashyam Michelle R Thank you so much! Well, I have to practice more and more this variation to improve hands coordination, but it's very rewarding this kind of cheerful mood in Bach music.

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