Tonebase Bach Stage

This thread is dedicated to J.S. Bach keyboard music. We would like to renew the inspiring spirit of the old thread "Group-Journey through J.S. Bach" based on the inventions and extend to the entire Bach repertoire: inventions, preludes, fugues, toccatas, dances of the Suites and Partitas...

This is for everyone who wants to join!

We can enjoy Bach music together and motivate each other in the process of learning and practicing it!

 

"I begin every day with Bach - usually for about an hour. I used to torture myself with Czerny, which of course wasn't exactly stimulating for the mind. On the other hand, it teaches you the fingering for a B flat major scale, chromatic thirds, and so on. The daily grind of learning. Later, I discovered that I could get my 'training' under way better with Bach - a refreshment for the body, soul and spirit". (András Schiff, Music Comes Out of Silence, p. 21)

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    • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
    • Peter_G
    • 6 mths ago
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    Wow Katrina, this is great.  I think this Fugue is one of the more profound and serious ones of the whole WTC.  Up there with the D# Minor and others. The clarity with which you bring out the subject in the Fugure is really impressive, especially with so much else going on. I've studied this one, too, but not up to the performance level yet.  I'll want to revisit your performances here when I have a little more time, and may be able to offer some more substantive feedback at that time.  You're motivating me to hurry up and get my current ones (C Minor, F# Minor, G Major Book 1; B Major, E minor Book 2) finished enough to post and try to keep up with you!

      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 5 mths ago
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      Katrina you are worrying too much about mistakes! I have some familiarity with this fugue, having once got it to the point where I could play it somewhat fluently at a very slow tempo. In my first couple of listenings here, nothing jumped out at me as a "noticeable mistake"! I was instead so impressed by how you are keeping the voices so distinct from each other yet also integrated.  Especially the subject; each time it enters, it is singing through everything else that's going on. And at the same time those overlapping countersubjects are also distinct and clearly articulated.

      So then I got out my trusty Henle Studien -edition and read along while you played, hunting for the alleged mistakes.  I THINK I spotted a couple of wrong notes, but it was not easy!  My point being that this is a really good performance and would be received as such by an audience of experienced musicians and even more so by the general public!   

      I am the same way about my own mistakes (as undoubtedly most of us here are). In trying to produce a recording I will sometimes do dozens and dozens of takes, trying to weed out all the little errors and infelicities, and in the process devolve into a veritable mad man, cursing and fuming at myself, ready to throw the piano out the window if only I could lift it!.  Then later, I might be listening to some of these takes , such as while driving or on my walks, and I find myself thinking "now WHERE are those mistakes??" or "what exactly was it that I found so unacceptable here??"  With some distance and perspective, I'm often better able to hear them in the same way that I tend to listen to others' performances on this platform:  hearing the expression, the flow of emotion, and the muscical content, rather than focusing on the technical features.

      So, bottom line, keep up the good work!

    • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
    • Juan_Carlos
    • 5 mths ago
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    What is the mystery, the fascination, behind musical canons in Bach?

    Are they a challenging puzzle, a demonstration of compositional mastery, or a symbolic representation of order within chaos? (In Bach's case, this last idea often carried religious connotations).

    Anyway, here is the ninth variation of the Goldberg Variations (Canone alla Terza; canon at the third): poetic, meditative, beautiful...

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 5 mths ago
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       You play this with such lovely serenity and sensitivity. Beautiful.

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 4 mths ago
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      Thank you so much, Michelle. Are you playing any pieces by Bach these days?

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 4 mths ago
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       I just began learning BWV 939, Little Prelude in C. I’m hopeful it will be ready to record in about a month. Thanks for asking!

      • vbashyam
      • 4 mths ago
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       Beautifully played! We are all enjoying your journey through the Goldberg variations.

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 4 mths ago
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       Beautiful piece, looking forward to hearing you play it!

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 4 mths ago
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       Thank you, Vidhya. You know that little story. "Which is more important, asked Big Panda, the journey or the destination? The company, said Tiny Dragon".

      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 4 mths ago
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       Another beautiful entry in your Discography Juan Carlos.  I think that each variation you learn is informing and enriching the subsequent ones.  You seem very much as one with this piece and its serene pace and intricacy. It's interesting here how the actual canon is almost disguised by the  combination of the three voices, integrated into a unified piece of great poetic beauty.  

      I've always said (to anyone willing to listen) that Bach offers the most music per square inch of any composer.  That would be my answer to your first question above -- in these canons, each note is serving multiple functions -- why settle for a mere harmonic purpose for a note when it can also serve a melodic function?  not to mention rhythmic, dramatic and emotional functions.  Bach seems incapable of NOT demonstrating compositional mastery, but it is incidental to the beauty of the music itself.. 

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 4 mths ago
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       Thanks so much, Peter, for your kind words. I really love that sentence, it totally resonates with me: "Bach offers the most music per square inch of any composer". Just brilliant!!

      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 mths ago
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        I realised I have missed your beautiful, sensitive Bach playing for some time! That was so inspiring. Bravo! 👏 

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 2 mths ago
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       Thank you so much for your kind words, Natalie☺️!

    • Helen_Lee
    • 4 mths ago
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    Hello. I joined the group recently and am getting back to playing after having stepped away from playing the piano for more than 20 years. Here's my first Bach Little Prelude in D Major (BWV 925) that I'm working on. Wish I could play it with more sensitivity and fluidity but am glad to be reacquainting myself with Bach's piano pieces. It's such a pleasure to see all the beautiful recordings done by folks in this group! Very inspirational.

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 4 mths ago
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       Very good playing, Helen. Your approach to Bach has that forward-driving flow ("Fortspinnung" in German, I think 🤔...), so full of contagious vitality, which feels like one of his personal hallmarks. Thank you for sharing it with us. Bravo!

      • Helen_Lee
      • 4 mths ago
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       Thank you for your encouraging words! I hope to play with more serenity in the future. I admire your beautiful playing. Thank you for starting this group. 

      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 mths ago
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       thanks for sharing the video. Such lovely playing and the articulation really brings the piece to life!

      • Helen_Lee
      • 2 mths ago
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       You're so kind! Thank you. 

      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 2 wk ago
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       Helen, I think you're doing quite well with the sensitivity and fluidity offered by this piece, which I think flows really well and is quietly reflective but with a very nice ebb and flow.  Welcome to tonebase, i think you're going to love it.

      • Helen_Lee
      • 2 wk ago
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       Thank you! I’ve admired your playing posted on this forum. Looking forward to listening to more of your recordings. 

    • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
    • Michelle_Russell
    • 3 mths ago
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    Little Prelude in C, BWV 939. I'm so happy to be able to include another recording in this group. I still have work to do on this piece, but it's at a good place for recording. Thanks for listening.

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 3 mths ago
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       Beautiful playing of a beautiful piece, Michelle! As always you play with such a delicacy. Thank you for sharing it!

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 3 mths ago
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       Thank you, Juan Carlos. It brings my heart joy when I am able to learn a piece by Bach!

      • Natalie_Peh
      • 2 mths ago
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       the lovely shaping of each phrase comes through! Beautiful playing, Michelle!

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 2 mths ago
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       Thanks so much, Natalie! I really enjoy learning to play Bach. 

      • Piano Player with Day Job (for now)
      • Peter_G
      • 2 wk ago
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       Michelle, it's plain to see here where Thurmond gets his musicality from! Your careful attention to the detail and substance of these little Preludes shines through in this precise yet nuanced performance, which also displays your steadily developing piano skills. Keep up the good work!

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