Tonebase Bach Stage

This thread is dedicated to J.S. Bach keyboard music. We would like to renew the inspiring spirit of the old thread "Group-Journey through J.S. Bach" based on the inventions and extend to the entire Bach repertoire: inventions, preludes, fugues, toccatas, dances of the Suites and Partitas...

This is for everyone who wants to join!

We can enjoy Bach music together and motivate each other in the process of learning and practicing it!

 

"I begin every day with Bach - usually for about an hour. I used to torture myself with Czerny, which of course wasn't exactly stimulating for the mind. On the other hand, it teaches you the fingering for a B flat major scale, chromatic thirds, and so on. The daily grind of learning. Later, I discovered that I could get my 'training' under way better with Bach - a refreshment for the body, soul and spirit". (András Schiff, Music Comes Out of Silence, p. 21)

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    • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
    • Michelle_Russell
    • 3 wk ago
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    I am so very happy to be adding another submission to this thread. I've had quite a journey with BWV 999, Little Prelude in C minor. I am pleased and satisfied with the recording I am attaching below. I've been a little obsessed with this piece over the past month (as evidenced by how many times I've posted progress reports in my own practice diary). It took me quite a while to commit it to memory and, as I expected, once I finally had it memorized I was able to settle and just play. For me, this is about the best playing I can expect from a recording - just a few little errors, and I'm getting better at recovering quickly. I remember when Thurmond could "suddenly" play through a piece without pauses, and I think I'm getting close to that myself! I hope you enjoy this, as I certainly enjoyed learning and playing it. Playing Bach helps keep me happy. 😄

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 8 days ago
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       Thanks so much, Peter. Of all the pieces I've learned, this one was the most challenging by far. It looks like my teacher has me in a sort of holding pattern at the moment, so that I can develop confidence before heading off into even more difficult weather with other new pieces. 

      • Pianist, composer and piano teacher
      • Sindre_Skarelven
      • 8 days ago
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       Congratulations on this achievement, Michelle! It flows so beautifully, and I enjoy how much intent there is behind every line and chord changes 👏🏻

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 7 days ago
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       Thank you, Sindre! I appreciate you taking the time to listen, and I'm happy that at least some of my intentions came through my playing.

      • Peter_William
      • Yesterday
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       very nicely played! and you memorized the whole piece .. wow ! Congrats 

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • Yesterday
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       Thanks for listening and commenting, Peter. This one took quite a while to memorize. I don't usually have that much difficulty committing one of the short pieces I play to memory, but this one was tricky to keep everything straight and in the correct order. I try to memorize most pieces (not all) since I find it much easier to play once it's solidly entrenched in my brain!

    • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
    • Juan_Carlos
    • 9 days ago
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    I can hardly believe it's been seven months since I uploaded my last video here, especially since I've been playing Bach every single day (Goldberg Variations, Chaconne in Brahm's transcription, Preludes and Fugues, Partita...). Anyway, here is my beloved Sarabande from the Partita in C minor: music for both the mind and the heart; music to meditate on without words, only through the sounds of the greatest composer who ever lived.

    I hope to post on this Bach stage more frequently form now on, and to share more videos of the Goldberg Variations and the complete Chaconne for the left hand...

      • Der Wanderer
      • FRANZ_SCHUBERT
      • 9 days ago
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       Juan Carlos, simply sublime.  Music for the mind and heart indeed.  Thank you for posting this and please don't let another seven months go by before giving us more Bach!

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 9 days ago
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       Thank you so much, Doug! Yes, we shouldn't forget this little corner of Tonebase, where we can share our videos playing Bach 😊.

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 8 days ago
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      so beautifully meditative and intimate, suitable for a gathering of good friends. Lovely. Thank you for sharing.

      • Noel_Nguyen
      • 8 days ago
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        Beautiful playing as always! And thanks for reminding me of the existence of this thread. I guess I will share my upcoming Goldberg videos here.

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 8 days ago
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       So moving and profound. A very beautiful piece beautifully performed.  From memory, as usual. seems like you've put your time to very good use over the last 7 months.

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 8 days ago
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         Thank you so much, my friends. Of course, let's share our Bach videos together in this little musical corner 😊!

      • Pianist, composer and piano teacher
      • Sindre_Skarelven
      • 8 days ago
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       So so beautiful again, Juan Carlos! All the lines singing so clear in your hands 👏🏻

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 7 days ago
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      Thank you so much, Sindre!

    • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
    • Peter_G
    • 6 days ago
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    Prelude in B Major, Well Tempered Clavier, Book 2.

    OK it's time I posted something myself. Here are my takes on the B Major Prelude and Fugue from Book 2 of the Well Tempered Clavier. I tried playing it in the May Community concert and had a bad memory slip which I very clumsily tried to recover from.  I spent another 6 weeks on shoring up the memorization and some of the technical aspects, and this is the result (played from memory even though it looks like i've got the score open from the Prelude).  Now it seems like I am finally ready to start learning it....

    The Prelude:

    https://youtu.be/ZzaA4XoqQig

     

    Fugue in B Major WTC2

    And here is the Fugue:

    https://youtu.be/-z675_K0T1s

      • hot4euterpe
      • 5 days ago
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       Great job Peter! Very clean and commanding playing of this prelude and fugue. You have great attention to articulation and rhythmic vitality. My favourite moment in the prelude was mm. 23-27; a very charming change of dynamic here with some lovely ornaments. The fugue subjects were all very well stated. I really liked the approach to and entry of the bass subject at m. 48. Some fine ornaments in the fugue as well. Bravo - you've clearly worked hard on this piece!

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 4 days ago
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       dear Dustin, thank you so much for giving a close listen to this piece and sharing your feedback, which draws upon such a deep well of knowledge and experience as a teacher.  I learn something new from virtually every one of your posts. 

      Re: the oranments in the Prelude -- I'm so glad you liked them. I made them up myself! I've always believed that these pieces -especially the Preludes -- derive from an improvisational tradition and that ornamentation can be used to evoke that in modern performances.  In this case, the hand shape and fingers bouncing over the black keys in that particular run inspired those little turns which fit nicely under the fingers.  I'm always willing to try something like this if I can fit it into the flow, even though I fear that sometimes I might cross over the line into bad taste. 

      Re: M. 48 of the Fugue:  it is around here that you start to realize that the little 4 note scale fragment (would you call it a tetrachord?) - both upward and downward -is not just a series of scale steps to get from point A to point B, but is actually a motif that asserts itself with ever more prominence from here through to the end of the piece. In mm.45-47 alone, we hear it 3 times upward and twice downward , and those little ornaments (in addition to fitting well on the fingers) are a way of calling attention to that motif.

      Thanks again for listening!

      • Mom, fitness instructor, lover of music
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 4 days ago
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       This is beautiful, Peter! I felt "safe in your hands" while you were playing - meaning, I could settle back into my chair, close my eyes, and know that we'd arrive safely at the end still in one piece. Thank you for sharing.

      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 4 days ago
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       Wonderful performance, Peter! Your articulation and clarity are impeccable, and the rhythmic steadiness is outstanding. I especially enjoyed the elegant, charming phrasing in the Prelude and the gentle expressivity of the Fugue. It's an absolute joy to listen to. Bravo!

      • hot4euterpe
      • 4 days ago
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       Yes you could call a four note scale fragment a tetrachord. Its 'older' meaning typically referred to a series of steps that spanned a perfect fourth but its used more loosely now to just mean any four note segment of a scale / tone collection.

      It's a great little gesture that is easy and effective to sequence! My favourite prelude and fugue is the G minor from WTC Book 1 and the best moment of the fugue is an episode near the end that does this same thing using the same type of figure (but leads into a stretto rather than a bass entry of the subject) =)

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 4 days ago
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       Thank you so much Michelle.  It took a LOT of work (as  surmised) to get this pair secure enough so that I could play them with some assurance, as opposed to holding my breath throughout while hoping to get to the end without any major mistakes.  I thought I had it ready for the May concert but the performance proved otherwise.  It took 6 more weeks of concentrated analysis, rememorization and multiple recordings to get it to this point. It could really benefit from some additional months of focus, but I am extremely impatient to move on to get through as many of the 48 as I can while I still can!

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 4 days ago
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       Ah, yes, I see what you are referring to in the G minor!  I count at least 12 of these 'tetrachords' overlapping in the episodic mm 24-27, leading into that climactic stretto.  And 2 more if you are willing to count the ones where he drops a 5th on the final (4th) note of the figure, rather than ascend one step upward.  Though less dense, there is a flurry of them in mm 73-80 of the above B Major (which are prefigured by the 16th note versions in mm 68-70). And they feature prominently (in pairs of 3rds no less) in the final climactic entry of the subject and the closing cadence.  Once I noticed them I started seeing them everywhere in this Fugue, until it finally dawned on me that "Hello!, this is not just a coincidence"!

      I didn't know that the term 'tetrachord' was originally defined with reference to a perfect fourth but that makes a lot of sense.  I had thought of the term as defining the bottom half and top half of a scale, each of which features  a leading tone before the 4th note (and each of which of course in a major scale spans a perfect 4th).

      The figures in this B Major fugue were reminiscent of that feeling of a rising or descending resolution to a definte end point  even where they don't literally state the specific upper- or lower- half of a scale.  In the B Major Fugue the figure generally lands on a significant chord tone even if not necessarily the tonic or the subdominant. The resolution can be momentary, since just when you think you've landed safely in a particular key, JSB immediately pulls you into a different key, but, nonetheless, it's this feeling of resolution or arrival that, to my ear, defines this figure for me, making it something that needs a special name, rather than just being thought of as 4 scale tones. 

      Hence, I was hoping that the term 'tetrachord' actually applied here, even if stretching the original textbook definition somewhat.  It really helped in my memorization to be able to put a name to it -- as in "OK here comes another one of those tetrachords" !

      • Unfrozen Barroom Piano Player
      • Peter_G
      • 4 days ago
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       Thank you so much Juan Carlos. My piano -- and the close-mic recording - is very unforgiving when it comes to articulation, and I work SO hard to achieve some degree of it, whereas my more natural inclination as an unreformed "barroom piano player " would be to blur all the edges with a lot of pedal.  So I'm glad some sense of that comes through this performance. When I hear the refined articulation of pianists such as you,       (just to name a few among so many others on these threads), I realize that there is much more I could be paying attention to, once I am able to execute the notes.

      It's the same with the expressivity.  There is so much to pay attention to in Bach, that I tend to let the expression find its own way by instinct.  Listening to others I realize again that there is a lot more that could be done with it by taking a more mindful approach.

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