Group 1

Improve your Scales!

Scales are integral to your technique - all of music is built on them! They are singularly one of the most important things to master for piano playing!

Fellow Participants in Group 1:

Vidhya Bashyam

Ko

Michael

Andrea Buckland

Denise

hanqi4

Barbara Blakeslee

Sindre Skarelven

Jarkko Janhunen

Gail Starr

Harry Neuwirth

Peter Hirsch

Susan Rogers

Fides Cutiongco

Alistair Bertram

 

Some tonebase productions to get you started

"Creative Scale Practice" with Jarred Dunn

C Major Pattern Scales with Juliana Han

"Choreographing Scales" with Seymour Bernstein

"Scale Technique" with Penelope Roskell

How to get the most out of this course

  • Start by watching the introduction video and practice the exercises given in the video.
  • Write a post with your experiences with scales.
  • Start Practicing Czerny Op.599 no.61, and 69!
  • Share two videos per week and help your course partners through feedback on their submissions!

 

Zoom Check-In: Wednesday, June 29th at 11am PT!

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  • Thank you so much for this amazing opportunity.  I'd like to add one more Tonebase lesson to the scales-related list you posted.  Daniela Bracchi has a marvelous lesson on Bach's Musette in D Major, which is built on D Major and A Major.  She does a great job of teaching the relationship between the tonic and dominant notes of each scale, and showing how they integrate with the music.  I have a special interest in learning practical applications of scales, and this is one that I'm so happy to have discovered.  Plus, she is an incredible teacher, patient and careful, and illustrating the hand movements for each segment of the score, etc.

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      • Gail Starr
      • Retired MBA
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      • 2 yrs ago
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      Barbara Blakeslee What an excellent recco, Barbara.  Thanks!

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  • Yes. Thanks Dominic and tonebase! Looking forward to working on scales with everyone!

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  • This is the first time I've been involved in an interactive program through Tonebase, and I thought I'd introduce myself to the group.  I think it would be nice if we would each write a little bit about ourselves, so we'd feel more connected to each other, since we'll be working together for the next two weeks.  So -- here goes!

     

    I took piano lessons in elementary school, and was good for my age.  My "war horse" was Fur Elise, which I could play well, by heart, and which I performed at a recital in school.  I stopped playing when I was about 13, and didn't touch a piano for the next *60* years.  Then, last summer, a few months after my husband of 32 years passed away, I got an overwhelming urge to play piano again, and started doing online research about digital pianos and online piano lessons.  Thanks to "chip-a-geddon," I couldn't get an appropriate piano (a white Roland RP501 -- love it!) until September 3rd, which is when I started all over again, as a new beginner.  I had to relearn everything:  the names of the keys, how to read music, etc.  It came back faster than I'd expected, but I'm definitely a beginner once again.

     

    I've explored and joined several online programs and have purchased more piano books and sheet music than I'd care to admit. I've also gotten into Pianoteq, and love being able to play all these amazing pianos, harpsichords, etc.  I'm definitely pretty fragmented, but loving it.  Tonebase is my favorite, and I've gotten rid of a few programs so I'm feeling at least a little bit saner.  I also started a piano club in my condo community (here in Palm Beach County, Florida), called "Piano Dreams."  We meet every two weeks, and I've also created a private Facebook group for the club.

     

    So -- that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!  Would love to learn more about each of you.

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      • Gail Starr
      • Retired MBA
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      • 2 yrs ago
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      Barbara Blakeslee I’m so sorry to learn of your husband’s passing, but you have taken up a fabulous activity!  And you are doing GREAT!

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    • Gail Starr Thank you so much, Gail.  I appreciate the encouragement!  Yes, the piano is so important to me during this new stage of the journey...

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    • Ko
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    I really appreciate this learning opportunity.

    However,  I wonder how to upload a video here. 

    Can I record through my android phone and upload here?

    I will appreciate any advice for it.

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      • Denise
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      • Denise
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      Ko I find it easiest to upload to YouTube (private) and share the link.

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      • Ko
      • Enko
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Denise Thank you so much!

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    • Denise if you make it private, no one can see it. If you make it unlisted, those who have the link can open it.

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      • Denise
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      • Denise
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Barbara Blakeslee my mistake. Same idea. thanks for correcting.

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      • Ko
      • Enko
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Barbara Blakeslee Thanks a lot!

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    • Denise
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    • Denise
    • 2 yrs ago
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    My experiences with scales are love and hate. I took lessons as a youth at a very good music school in Buffalo, however, theory, scales, technique… were not stressed. My technique was Hanon. (UGH!) I never really understood key signatures, tetrachords, relative minors, natural, harmonic and melodic minors… etc.  I knew basic one octave scales for I would say C, G, D, A, F… and that’s honestly all I really remember from the early 80s. I stopped playing at 18 when I joined the Navy, had 3 children. Returned to piano at 32, thanks to Jason, my now significant other who is a professional pianist. He was inspirational, and was my, “IF not now, when?” Especially while going through my divorce… he was so right.

    When I went back to community college and took keyboard lessons as an elective then delved into theory, I started to understand the circle of fifths, etc.. and how they applied to scales, intervals etc… but I always panicked.  My return to school was to do music therapy, however, it morphed into Special Education (more lucrative day job during the Great Recession - not to mention, my oldest who is now almost 28 had an IEP).

    Scales = panic
    Panic = pain

    Scales are painful.

    Yes, I made it through music school with a Bachelors. I had matriculated in with an associates degree, and placed as a Junior in the music program. I recall my first jury - never had one in community college, BTW, two weeks before, my professor said, all scales, all keys, 4 octaves, and arpeggios are subject to be played from memory at 120 BPM. I lost it. Not once that semester did she tell me about it. I panicked. My first jury was a disaster. I always botched scales. I tense up. I can’t play them fast.

    Fast forward to now. I teach all of my students from early on… scales. How to understand them, how to create them. How to play them. But I still have a fear of them.

    My current teacher, who has a PhD from UCSD and attended Oberlin for earlier degrees, had me play B flat major scale and arpeggios over and over for months. I could get them up to speed. Apparently, this is Chopin’s preference for order of scales because of how the fingers lay.

    I still have scalanxiety. BUT, through music theory, teaching, lessons, I know all of my scales and can play them slowly. SOME with decent velocity… others, crash and burn.

    That’s my story. I am 51, and I will play scales and teach them the best I can until I die. 

    Thanks for reading, and I am looking forward to the intensive.

    BTW, I have taught most of my Early Intermediate kiddos Progress… yet I struggle to play it clean! LMAO

     

    ~Denise 

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    • Denise Thanks so much for sharing your story!  Loved it!

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      • Gail Starr
      • Retired MBA
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      • 2 yrs ago
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      Denise SCALANXIETY!  I need a Tshirt or Bumpersticker for that!

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  • Hello, finally found the page ahah! I honestly hated scales when I was younger as only saw them as a thing to do in exams, I just wanted to play not bother with tedious scales. 

     

    However now that I'm older I actually understand the importance of scales so now I'm working hard to improve them. My scales are better than they ever was I can play them easier and quicker however still got a long way to go. 

     

    I cant wait to see how I improve over the two weeks! 

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  • Hi! My scales experiences? I had two years of piano lessons when I was a kid, but didn't really learn to practice scales. Also when I started playing again more intensively four years ago (during Chemo therapy to keep my fingers moving which were getting more and more numb during treatment) I decided to play repertoire rather than exercises. In fact I played through all the Beethoven sonatas, one movement per week. Although the sonatas were obviously above my level, the 'Beethoven Project' gave me a reason to get up in the morning, brought a lot of joy and fulfillment and certainly helped to get back to vitality. I also got used to playing quite a few hours per day during that time and I'm still addicted to that practice. By the end of 2018 I started taking lessons again, only randomly a few hours per year, working on repertoire. I'm very glad for this opportunity here to work on technique. Thank you, Dominique, for that!

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    • Andrea Buckland Thanks for sharing this.  So glad your treatment was successful.  Play on, cancer free!

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    • Andrea Buckland Amazing story Andrea! 

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    • Vidhya Bashyam thank you, Vidhya and @Barbara_Blakeslee!  Thank God all is well now. No more excuses if I mess up my scales ;)

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      • Gail Starr
      • Retired MBA
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      Andrea Buckland I’m so thrilled that your Beethoven project brought you both health AND joy!  The founder of the piano club I joined in Atlanta resumed piano during her chemo treatments over a decade ago.  And she is now such a pro that she competes in all the international amateur competitions!  I bet you could, too, someday.

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    • Gail Starr oh wow! Thank you,  Gail! I might need a decade though to learn how to play a C major scale both hands well (after a frustrating day of practice) Giving up is not an option, of course. Please tell me more about your piano club and say Hello from me.

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      • Gail Starr
      • Retired MBA
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      Andrea Buckland We are in the same boat!  I had a neurological illness 4 years and couldn’t use my right hand properly for about 2 years.  I still have numbness and pain in my fingers but I’m playing anyway…just haven’t practiced scales since I was 12-13 years old! 😂

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    • Gail Starr That’s tough Gail. Nightmare for a pianist. Glad you are still playing and sharing your beautiful music!

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    • Gail Starr oh Gail, I‘m so sorry to hear that you had to go through that! That’s horrible! Do you still feel pain while playing the piano? I was very fortunate that soon after the treatment the pain and numbness in the fingers stopped completely while in the feet it’s still there after four years. I congratulate you to your excellent playing, Gail despite of this difficulty and admire you even more than I did before. Hope the symptoms will soon go completely 

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