Week 3: Discovering Schubert Month

Dear Pianists,

 

As we're coming up to the last week of Discovering Schubert Month, I'm keen to hear of your insights and takeaways from your month's work.

 

Here's the Week 3 thread, where you may post your text and video updates! I've only got one question for you this week:

 

    What does it take to build Schubert into your life?

 

I've previously asked you about the piece you are working on, a passage you are satisfied with, and one you're less satisfied with. I've also learned a lot about your musical imagination and pianism by asking you how you might describe the character of your piece, the pianistic tools you use to convey the aforementioned character, and particular elements of the piece you notice by playing it. I'm always so moved by the process of learning a piece of music, playing it, performing it, and continuing to live with it. Playing piano has always been a bastion in my life and I hope that through your regular ritual and practice it can be a source of comfort and empowerment for you too.

 

I hope you'll consider proposing your Schubert piece for Piano Community's upcoming Community Concert, and to share your work with other supportive members of our community! I really believe I am awarded deep insights when I take the time to deeply consider the elements of my colleagues' successes.

 

If you're new to the Schubert gathering this week, welcome-it's never too late to join! You may find the guidelines for participation in the Rules and FAQ thread. 

See you below, 🎹

Hilda

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    • Will Green
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    • Will_Green
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Hi Hilda! Thanks so much for all of your work and care for this community! It is truly inspiring. 

     

    Being in the throes of learning repertoire for an upcoming concert, my time was limited with Schubert, but I have been able to learn the last sonata he wrote. Here is a recording of the first movement. I hope to have time to record the rest! It has been a wonderful experience to learn this music. 

     

    To incorporate Schubert into my life, I will program his music more in my recitals. I admit that he has been neglected in my repertoire. But this month has challenged me to change that, and so I give you all my thanks for broadening my musical horizons with Schubert's music.

     

    The dissonances among the consonances remind me, personally, that death and despair are always close at hand - indeed, they are mixed in even with the harmony of life. We cannot have one without the other and they usually come together in pairs. There is no spring without winter, and for Schubert, there is no consonance without a little bit of dissonance. He reminds me to enjoy life while I have it and to constantly keep my own death before my eyes, constantly in my awareness…..

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      • Gail Starr
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      Brother Will Green I love the richness of your sound.  You truly understand where this piece is going and you've nailed it in a super short period of time.  Wishing you the best on your upcoming recital!

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    • Brother Will Green Love your understanding of the piece conveyed. BRAVO! Thanks so much for sharing.

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      • Will Green
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      Gail Starr Thanks so much, Gail. :) And your duet was incredible!!

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      • Will Green
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      Rudelle Gaje Thanks for listening, Rudelle!! :) xx

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      • Will Green
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      Jarkko Janhunen Thank you, Jarkko!! 

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      • Gail Starr
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      Brother Will Green Monika & I love playing together, an ocean apart.

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      • YS min
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      Brother Will Green beautiful. thank you for sharing. 

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      • Pauline
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      Brother Will Green Beautiful playing, Brother Will! Thank you!

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      • Gail Starr
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      Brother Will Green I’m meeting the BEST people on Tonebase.  Even though none of us live near each other, we have many new friends!

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    • Anthony Miyake
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    Hi Hilda, for me, all it took to build Schubert into my life was being exposed to more of his music, downloading a few pieces from IMSLP and trying them out.  Also, picked up a volume of his Sonatas and was surprised to learn he had 3 volumes of Sonatas in total--while Beethoven just has 2 volumes and Mozart, one. 

     

    One thing I've noticed with the Schubert piece I'm working on is that it's relatively easy to get it mostly learned, but to really polish it, I need to focus my practice time on just the problem areas in the piece.  If I keep trying to practice the piece by playing it from start to finish each time, then that leaves too little time to really work on the problem areas.  Also, because some of the progressions in Schubert's music are so subtle, it's sometimes difficult for me to tell if I'm making a mistake or not as a wrong note here and there may not be completely obvious.  But those subtleties are what makes his music so beautiful.

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      • Gail Starr
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      Anthony Miyake I was also surprised that there were so many Schubert sonatas!  So wonderful!

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  • Hilda  Firstly, please accept my apologies but I shall not be in your session on memorising later today.  I shall hear it later on the play-back.  We're off to a concert - the Black Dyke Mills Band, which has its origin in the industrial north of the UK, which is where I lived as a child.  I once took my grandmother to a concert of theirs, which would be about fifty years ago.  She loved it! 

    Schubert has been in my life, on and off, since my early twenties, when I took piano lessons with a teacher who was obsessed with Schubert.  She worked with a soprano on the lieder, had a duet partner too for all the big Schubert 4-handers.  She could not quite manage the whole of the Wanderer Fantasy - just a few bars were beyond her grasp sometimes, not always.  I think now that it was a pyschological.

    I managed to make a few recordings this week, at last, which are not fit for public consumption, but I shall incorporate this into my practising.  I think your session on memorising will be really useful to me.  I discovered from this week that I am pedalling too heavily sometimes.  I saw your session on pedalling on re-run as I did not see the email soon enough last week.  I need to trust myself to play the chords without using the pedal as a mask.  I am focusing on more intentional use of the pedal, as my pedalling is part of my 'memory' at present and sometimes I am not sure at all what I am doing and why.  The dynamics are a real problem too.  How do we play so quietly - 'piano' almost immediatly after a fz?

    This challenge has been so useful, as it has brought a new light to pieces that I learned many years ago and would benefit from a fresh perspective.  My greatest challenge is lack of technique.  I am now playing all of the major and harmonic minors from memory [sometimes I need to check the fingering] - two octaves hands together - at a moderate speed to ensure accuracy.  I am doing half of the scales for a fortnight each so I cover all of them in one month.  I have completed all of the broken chords too and have started to incorporate arpeggios - basic position and two inversions - hands separately and together.  Again, they are on a weekly work programme so I should do all of them in a five weeks timefame.

    I am striving to have more fluency.  I have just listened to Brother Will Green   playing the first movement of the B flat sonata.  I would settle for a tenth of that facility.  I am now returning to other pieces [I still have the music] that I learned many years ago but reading through them in order to get more immediate fluency. 

    I am a flute player and we use a combination of some, and sometimes all, of nine fingers to produce each single note.  My eyes look at a note on the page and there is an obvious immediacy from my brain as it 'tells' my fingers my fingers what to do.  I do not have to think about it consciously, which has come from thousands of hours of practice.  That's the aim for the piano - two years may be?

    Have a lovely session later.  I am sorry not to be there 'live'.

    Roy

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      • Will Green
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      Roy James-Pike Roy, the session with Hilda was rescheduled - you haven't missed it! It will be tomorrow at 2pm EST! And thank you for your kind and generous comment. I look forward to hearing you play! You could share music on the flute, if you wanted to! I'm sure we'd all love to hear you. :) 

      Be well and I hope to see you tomorrow for Hilda's livestream! 

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    • Brother Will Green You are very welcome.  I am enjoying hearing the 'master classes' on TB.  I am learning so much from them.  This is a fabulous resource.  It's a cornupia without any limit.  Glad to hear that Hilda is on tomorrow instead of today.  I have my own plan for what I want to do, which is working really well.  I am at one with my scales at the moment, which is a revelation.  

       

      We're just back from the concert of the Black Dyke Mills Band.  Splendid concert.  They played Elgar's Nimrod along with some show-stoppers!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7i_u0sHN8

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      • Gail Starr
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      Roy James-Pike i am totally in love with ALL Elgar!

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    • Gail Starr Thank you Gail.  Vaughan Williams is very underated and so beautiful.  There is so much to like about his quintessential view of the anglo-sensibilities.  Sorry that we didn't hear your duet with Monika Tusnady  but what a wonderful concert!

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  • To answer your question: patience! Schubert's music for the most part spins small ideas out into extended pieces of music by exact repetition, and it is sometimes hard to stay focused and not play (or even listen) in a rote sort of way. It is not instantly dramatic like Beethoven, Chopin, et al.

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      • Will Green
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      Harriet Kaplan A great observation! He does compose in short motives more so than Beethoven and tends to cycle back to the material. I love the way that when the motive and theme comes back around, even though it might be the same notes, it takes a completely different character based on what just came before! Can't wait to hear you play. Be well :)

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    • Qingzhi
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    It was great to join the journey of Schubert with all of you. 3rd week I am working on 3rd movement. I would like to finish this piece and also want to play more of his music!

     

    To build Schubert in my life, I think he is teaching me to be more romantic. Schubert tells me to soften my heart and don't look at material world but to bear a romantic pure heart, be brave to feel the world, don't be scared to get hurt or feel sad. it's not destination that matters but the journey. 

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      • Will Green
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      Qingzhi Beautiful!!!

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    • Qingzhi Sounds beautiful! So great to see that is possible to make so much progress in such a short time.

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      • Michael
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      Qingzhi I love how playful this sounds. Your clarity and articulation are superb! How have you found this movement compared to the others. For me each has been a different pianistic challenge. I can't wait to here the finished version of this movement from you :)

       

      Btw, it was really fun having another person in this challenge perform the same piece. I want to thank you for your support during the challenge.

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      • Qingzhi
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      Michael Thank you too! 3rd movement is technically more difficult to play than the first 2. The scales aren't that scary for me, but the jumps in a few places give me trouble. Like the one at 0:33 or 1:10 in this recording. My teacher says it is a piece for big hands, I can see that, from some reaches, jumps, and voicing, I don't have big hands, but it is super fun to play even for small hands! Yea, I'm glad you chose this piece too, so fun to learn this together 😄

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      • Monika Tusnady
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      Qingzhi I just love the clarity of intent and playing that you convey. I can't believe how much you've done during this short challenge. You definitely challenge me to be my best self! Thank you for all your posts!

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