Group 4

In this two-week initiative, we’re moving beyond the black and white of the keyboard and into the colorful spectrum of instrumental timbres.  In week one, you'll hone your skills in spotting orchestral writing in the works of the great composers.  Week two will focus on experimenting with a variety of tones and textures in your own playing to illustrate the qualities of the many varied orchestral instruments.

 

BYOP: Bring your own Piece! This challenge does not rely on specific repertoire, so feel free to pick any piece that best suits your current abilities. 

 

Pianists of all levels are welcome. You may choose how much of the piece you would like to work on. It can be a phrase or a page. 

 

More Detailed instructions coming soon!

  • Sign-Up : Monday January 16th at 10 am PST
  • Course Period: January 23 - February 6
  • Class Size: max. 4 Groups á 10 Participants
  • Optional check-In via Zoom: February 2nd at 10:30am PT

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Assignment 1

Supplementary material: Beethoven Sonata Op.10 no.1

 

 

Part 2

 

 

Overview of Week 1: Spotting orchestral writing in your pieces!

Look out for the following:

1. Bass Octaves

2. Sudden shift of texutre

3. Stems of notes going in different directions

4. Melody in the middle of piano/middle voices?

5. Exact repetition (different instrument playing it?)

 

Assignment 2

Supplementary material: Beethoven Sonata Op.2 no.3

 

Part 1

https://youtu.be/3d585wc7nnw

 

Part 2

https://youtu.be/Ta9gohIufDs

 

Overview:

Put together a list of 5-10 descriptive words you can use to express the music you are playing. 

 

Upload a piece or excerpt of your piece where you discuss how you adjust your attack (finger/arm/pedal) to accommodate the instrumentation and expression you chose in video 1. 

 

Upload an excerpt of your piece where you CHANGE the instrumentation and/or expression and note what conscious changes you made in your attack to do so.  

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    • Kerstin
    • Kerstin
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    Hello everyone! I have never thought in this direction seriously. So I have looked over the Polonaise I am practicing right now. Maybe it is a bit too long but I wanted to go through the whole piece. 
    https://youtu.be/R_yyJj2uad4

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      • Daniela
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      Kerstin 

      Hi Kerstin.  Thank you for your enlightening video.  I never think of Chopin as orchestral, but boy did you nail it.  From the opening chord, I definitely see this piece in an entirely different way now, almost like a Chopin symphony if one could imagine.  A very pre-Prokofiev Prokofiev. Also, I didn't realize how many exact repetitions there were.  Thank you for noticing and bringing out a different instrumentation on each one. You do a really nice job handling the thick textures.  I think that helped in showing your vision of the orchestra.  Well done!

      (3'46" Horn?)

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      • Kerstin
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      Daniela Thanks! Yes, horn is a good idea. It’s very interesting to think in this direction, because imagination is a big deal here. And if we have an exact idea, what we want to give to the listener, it will be a better communication and more colorful. Great challenge.

      🌟🎹🌟

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      • ALICE
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      Kerstin I love your imagination!

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    • Kerstin I really enjoyed listening to your video. The orchestration really brought out the grandness in the piece and it was fun to hear your ideas. Thanks!

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    • Juan Carlos Olite
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    • Juan_Carlos
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    Hi everyone! Here my first try with Ginastera "Danza de la moza donosa". So as not to interrupt the piece, I've preferred to indicate with subtitles the different instruments I imagine in this music. But, it is one thing to imagine and another to capture clearly the color, the timbre you are looking for...

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      • Kerstin
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      Juan Carlos Olite Wow! A wonderful piece and wonderful playing. Thanks 👍

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      • Daniela
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      Juan Carlos Olite Awesome.  Very clear decisions and you show them well in your playing which is sincere and colorful.  In fact there were many moments where I stopped and said to myself "ooo, that was a nice sound."  I especially heard the tutti come through with your use of dynamics and the way that you struck the key at the end made a real ringing sound to imitate the glockenspiel.  

      @ 38" you do a great job of showing the violin and viola lines in their entrances.  At this particular cadence, can you show more layers by playing one of them softer?  (I do the middle line - especially that Eb)

      Just a thought about your solo cello in the beginning.  I think I hear a different pedaling from you in the opening than at the ending.  Have you given much thought to how you want to pedal it?  I think it's important as it's pretty much consistent throughout the piece.  If you see a cello, can you maybe think of how that cello would sound if they were in a big empty room and there was lots of vibration - maybe just enough pedal to overlap, without being overwhelming?  It's a tricky game because that B is so dissonant with the A, but we kind of also want to hear it sustained a bit to resolve to the C in the next measure.

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    • Juan Carlos Olite Beautiful, soulful playing! Thanks for introducing me to this piece.

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
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      • Juan_Carlos
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      Daniela Thank you so much, Daniela! I wasn't aware of doing different pedaling in the opening than at the ending, you're right and with your remark the atmosphere could be more effective indeed.  I will try to show more "distant" the different voices in the "string trio" fragments. I love this kind of work with your revealing comments. Thank you!

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
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      • Juan_Carlos
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      Kerstin Leslie Chong Thank you very much Kerstin and Leslie!  This piece is the second of "Danzas argentinas" and it is very pleasant to play. I like very much your reflections and instrumental proposals in your videos. 

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    • Giuseppe
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    I am thinking of a piece by Fred Hersch called "Valentine" but I don't know If I can record a video because I think it is copyrighted.  Anyway on YouTube it is possible to hear it from Fred Hersch himself (there is also a beautiful version played by Eunbi Kim). It reminds me of the "Songs Without Words" by Mendelssohn. The form is A A B with coda .  In the first A I would give the theme to the oboe ,  soon after joined  by clarinet and alto flute while the strings sustain the harmony and play  the inner voices.  In the second A the theme is repeated by the strings alone. The woodwinds section start the B part followed by the strings and  after the deceptive cadence the oboe returns to end the song.

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      • Daniela
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      Giuseppe I like your choice of the oboe.  I definitely hear the song without words and I think the oboe is voice-like in it's ability to sing a melody.  Then on the repeat, the idea of the strings echoing, perhaps without the "singer".  Very nice.  You will have fun in week 2 with this I think.

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      • Daniela
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      Giuseppe I know Eunbi well. I will tell her you enjoyed it!

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      • Giuseppe
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      Daniela Thanks. Give my compliments to Eunbi Kim!  I would like to make an orchestral arrangement of Valentine. 

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    • Juan Carlos Olite
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    • Juan_Carlos
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    Hi Daniela and piano mates! Here the second video. I am trying to look for different sounds with similar melodies (Des Abends; first piece of the Shumann "Fantasiestücke op. 12).

    I see the main theme as melancholic, but peaceful, serene, not strictly sad, contemplative and introspective (Clarinet). The repetition increases these intimate feelings (Oboe and Cello pizzicati). The middle section seems to be a bit uneasy; something interrupts the apparent calm of the soul and there is some kind of inner dialogue. Our unconscious shows us problems and a mild anxiety emerges (Strings dialogue Violin Viola). After an unsuccessful effort to regain a peaceful mind (Flute) and other disquieted and agitated inner dialogue, the serenity returns with a tranquil face, closed eyes and a placid smile (Clarinet, Flute, Horn, Flute).

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      • Daniela
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      Juan Carlos Olite Wonderful!  The "conflict" you mention is very Schumann-esque.  So much of his music is polarized so it's great that you intentionally brought that out.  I especially hear a difference of color on the repeat, and the strings dialogue is so clear in its counterpoint.  Overall the your performance has an incredible sense of line.  I hope that breaking it down in this way has contributed to that.  

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
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      • Juan_Carlos
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      Daniela Thank you so much for your comments, Daniela! I am very happy with this course, with your videos and reflections we have learnt to focus on color when we are practicing  something that in many occasions we put aside. Thank you very much!

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    • Juan Carlos Olite This was beautiful, Juan! Really enjoyed your playing. I think you captured the mood wonderfully and I could hear the different colors/instruments you were trying to bring out.

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      • Juan_Carlos
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      Leslie Chong Thank you so much, Leslie!

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  • Hello Daniela and everyone!

     

    Here is a work-in-progress video for the second assignment! I'll try to post more later! Thanks!

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      • Daniela
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      Leslie Chong Struggling with creating the sound we want is the first step on the path to actually creating the sound we want, so be patient with the process.  It's frustrating... but everything adds up to a new tool in your toolbox whether you need it in this particular spot or not.  

       

      Prelude to the Afternoon of a Fawn is an excellent example of his orchestration.  I almost mentioned it with your first video but didn't want to lead you in any direction.

      Soft and warm... very difficult and you are doing great.  Did you work on LH sound alone?  I think there's more depth that can contribute there, especially when it comes in.  I always suggest playing the RH on the fallboard and the LH on the keyboard so you can really hear what the LH is doing while your RH is playing and then refine the sounds from there.

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    • Thanks Daniela for the feedback! After reading this, I did work more on the left hand, but I think it could definitely use more work.

       

      Since we're coming up on the last day of this intensive, I thought I'd put together what I've learned/explored and try to execute. Thanks again for your feedback and this great course. I feel that I got much deeper into this piece than I would've on my own, and I've learned some tools that I can apply to future pieces.

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      Leslie Chong WOW!  That's so beautiful Leslie.  I feel like you nailed this.  So happy you joined!

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      • Juan_Carlos
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      Leslie Chong Gorgeous sound and playing, Leslie! An extraordinary and beautiful Debussy!

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