Level 8 â Repertoire, Course Lists & Discussion Space
Level 8 description
Youâre at home with challenging piano repertoire from multiple stylistic periods, and you have the freedom to continue exploring the many masterworks within your comfort zone while still pushing the limits of your technical potential. Try your hand at one of Bachâs keyboard suites, an iconic classical sonata, or any number of 19th- and 20th-century showpieces and character pieces. Take your musicianship training further and test your general musical senses in âplay and singâ labs for melodic and harmonic ear training.
Level 8 recommended study pieces
- BACH: English Suite No. 2: I. Prelude
- HAYDN: Allegro from Sonata in C Major, Hob. XVI:50
- MOZART: Allegro assai from Sonata in F Major, K. 332
- BEETHOVEN: "PathĂ©tique" Sonata, Op. 13 â 1st Movement
- CHOPIN: Etude in F minor, Op. 25 No. 2
- LISZT: âGnomenreigenâ from Two Concert Etudes
- BRAHMS: Rhapsody in B Minor Op. 79 No. 1
- RACHMANINOFF: Prelude in G Minor, Op. 23 No. 5
- GINASTERA: Danzas Argentinas
Level 8 recommended courses
- PRINCIPLES OF THE TAUBMAN APPROACH
- INSIDE MOZART'S PIANO SONATAS
- CHOPIN ETUDE TRAINING
- SOUND AND COLOR
Level 8 practice labs
Level 8 complete repertoire lessons
- BACH: Corrente from Partita No. 6 in E minor
- BACH: Tempo di gavotte from Partita No. 6 in E Minor
- BACH: English Suite No. 2: I. Prelude
- BACH: English Suite No. 2: V. Bourrée I, VI. Bourrée II, VII. Gigue
- BACH: Partita No. 6 in E Minor - I. Toccata
- BACH: 1st mvt Allegro from Concerto in D Minor, BWV 1052
- BACH: 3rd mvt Allegro from Concerto in D Minor, BWV 1052
- BACH: Workshop on Concerto in D Minor, BWV 1052
- BACH: Rehearsal on Concerto in D Minor, BWV 1052
- HAYDN: Allegro from Sonata in C Major, Hob. XVI:50
- MOZART: Allegro assai from Sonata in F Major, K. 332
- BEETHOVEN: Sonata in E Minor, Op. 90 â 1st Movement
- BEETHOVEN: Sonata in E Minor, Op. 90 â 2nd Movement
- BEETHOVEN: "PathĂ©tique" Sonata, Op. 13 â 1st Movement
- BEETHOVEN: Allegro con brio from Concerto No. 1, Op. 15
- BEETHOVEN: Rondo from Concerto No. 1, Op. 15
- BEETHOVEN: "Tempest" Sonata, Op. 31 No. 2 â 1st Movement
- BEETHOVEN: "Tempest" Sonata, Op. 31 No. 2 â 3rd Movement
- BEETHOVEN: Rage Over a Lost Penny, Op. 129
- SCHUBERT: Sonata in A Major, D. 664 â 1st Movement
- SCHUBERT: Sonata in A Major, D. 664 â 3rd Movement
- CHOPIN: Prelude in D Major, Op. 28 No. 5
- CHOPIN: Prelude in C-sharp Minor, Op. 28 No. 10
- CHOPIN: Prelude in E-flat Minor, Op. 28 No. 14
- CHOPIN: Prelude in A-flat Major, Op. 28 No. 17 in A-flat Major
- CHOPIN: Prelude in F Minor, Op. 28 No. 18 in F Minor
- CHOPIN: Prelude in E-flat Major, Op. 28 No. 19
- CHOPIN: Prelude in G Minor, Op. 28 No. 22
- CHOPIN: Etude in C-sharp Minor, Op. 25 No. 7
- CHOPIN: Etude in F minor, Op. 25 No. 2
- CHOPIN: Berceuse in D-flat Major, Op. 57
- LISZT: âGnomenreigenâ from Two Concert Etudes
- BRAHMS: Rhapsody in B Minor Op. 79 No. 1
- GRIEG: Concerto in A Minor, Op. 16 â 1st Movement
- GRIEG: Concerto in A Minor, Op. 16 â 3rd Movement
- DEBUSSY: Prelude Book 2 No. 8, âOndineâ
- SCRIABIN: Etude in F-sharp Major, Op. 42 No. 4
- RACHMANINOFF: Prelude in G Minor, Op. 23 No. 5
- RACHMANINOFF: Prelude in G Major, Op. 32 No. 5
- RACHMANINOFF: Prelude in G-sharp Minor, Op. 32 No. 12
- RAVEL: Animé from Sonatine
- GINASTERA: Danzas Argentinas
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Questions & Discussion
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I thought this was reasonably accurate. Most of my playing and training was in jazz and improvisation. Iâve gone through some of the pieces on the list like the Ravel Sonatine. Iâm currently working on the Rachmaninov C minor Prelude, Mozart Sonata in A minor. Any thoughts on how I should proceed are appreciated. I enjoy following the presentations on this app and I wish to continue to improve my knowledge of all these styles of playing.
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Jerome Meltzer I agree. This was a pretty accurate reflection of my current skills. I actually just finished learning the Rachmaninoff C minor Prelude! For how grand it sounds, I was surprised that it is more manageable than I expected. I'm excited to learn these other pieces!
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Khoa Phan Howard Good to hear!
Jerome Meltzer If you want to expand your general knowledge of these different historical styles, you might consider watching some of the interviews with different artists, or even try some of the big courses and really advanced rep (because they often included the richest discussions of style). For example, you can learn a lot about Rachmaninoff's music from watching a lesson or two from Garrick Ohlsson's Rach 3 course, even if you have no intention of playing the piece!
Maybe even better for you though would be some of our historical improvisation and theory/analysis content (try here: https://app.tonebase.co/piano/library/skills). Noam Sivan's Improvisation course basically has to reverse engineer aspects of baroque, classical, romantic, impressionist, etc styles; and he has a whole separate course on analyzing and improvising in Ravel's harmonic language. Derek Remes has courses on reverse engineering Bach and Mozart's Preludes and Sonatas, respectively. These might be just right for you!
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Ben Laude Thanks for these suggestions. Looking forward to checking them out soon.
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I think the repertoire list is just that right thing that I wasted. It points me to the right direction with approachable goal. I canât wait to learn all pieces in the list!
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I'm so happy to be in this lovely level 8 crew. I'm going to check out Noam Sivan's class, too.
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Thank you for developing the piano level system. Iâm currently working on Schubertâs sonata in A major. Glad to know itâs right at my level. Excited to see Griegâs concerto on this list. Definitely one of my favorite. Hope to be able to play that sometime!!!
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Yes, Nice to have this list of pieces and group of fellow pianists. I started working on the Rachmaninov G minor Prelude. Itâs an excellent presentation and Iâm already learning so much from it. Has anyone else tried this one?
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Beyond these "level" based web discussion does Tonebase host/sponsor/set-up any kind of in-person "peer group" meetings?
The repertoire seems to match my current level. I can't find the "quiz" I see others talking about (?) I'm a 50-year old amateur. I mostly wasted time with piano for 5 or 6 years when young, dropped it, and re-started seriously in 2017. I've joined local amateur groups (both in person and by zoom) and they're enthusiastic, but mostly they're retirees just messing around and filling out the day learning a nice tune, and few take lessons. I've been amazed how much I enjoy the conversations when the meetings move beyond simple performances and "you play wonderfully" banter into technical areas, "my teacher recently suggested I work on A, B, and C", "I've been trying X, but I'm not sure, maybe Y would work better" , "I'm curious about working on very close imitations of recordings" ideas/issues etc. I'm curious about joining a zoom group of people like me, roughly the same level, but more importantly: serious about trying to get better. Likely members take at least one lesson a month, practice 7 or 14+ hours a week, etc. My favorite group is a weekly zoom we call a "workshop": play anything at any level of completion. I use it to get a small performance practice in every week, especially to see how it sounds before I take it in for a lesson.
Any meeting ideas/thoughts/resources I'm missing?
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i've played most of the pieces on the list, but very much look forward to the lessons to see what i can do to improve upon them, they could certainly benefit from a "boost".
i never "perform" in public, so too often a piece i will decide to work up never quite makes it to performance level, i.e., they permanently have mistakes, which is annoying and a drag
maybe this investment in myself will excise this bad habit once and for all.if so, the ROI will be priceless. now it's just up to me to follow through. i will look to a particular 19-yo for inspiration to "up my game", as it were.
nice to be here, i haven't even done anything yet and i'm already proud of myself
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