Week THREE: Share your love! (Watch Party is next week!)

Hello and welcome to the WEEK THREE Main Thread for this challenge! 馃ぉ

 


Alright everyone - this is the thread where we'll all be posting our daily updates.     

Make sure you've read the rules before replying (<- click)

 

Twice a week between February 6 - 13 I hope to be reading your daily updates in this very thread right here!     

 

Here is this week's assignment!

 

Because the WATCH PARTY is next week, February 14th at 11am PT let's do the following this week!

 

1. OVERALL GOAL: Record your piece!

 

2. OPTIONAL: say a few words about why you choose your piece, and what you love so much about it BEFORE or AFTER you play! (Before is nice, because then we can listen with a guided imagination through your words!) You can submit two videos (one of your words and one of the music) I will then put them together into ONE video.

 

3. OPTIONAL: Record your piece at least TWICE! Why? Because we want you to submit your favorite recording, and tell us why you choose the one that you did. Was it because of technical reasons? Musical ones? It is important to practice evaluating your work through words!

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    • Michael
    • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
    • MichaelP
    • 7 mths ago
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    I've really enjoyed this challenge and interactions with all involved, learned a ton, and made a lot of progress technically and in understanding the music. But I'm afraid I overdid it. The attached Vanitas still life explains my condition for the past several days:

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    • Michael Oh NO!!! Take care and be patient with the recovery!

      To be fair, I have to also watch myself not to overdo it as well. I saw a new community thread on the injury topic ... probably time to participate there 馃槄

      https://piano-community.tonebase.co/t/x2hahp8/musicians-health-matters-discussing-music-related-injuries-and-prevention-strategies

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michael Oh, no!! I hope you caught it early/immediately and have a quick recovery.

      I know in sport we have pro-active exercises to reduce the occurrence of injury - essentially they are the physical therapy exercises one would do after injury. I wonder if there is such a thing in piano? It seems like there should be. I have to be careful as I've entered learning the piano with pre-existing hand/wrist/elbow/shoulder injuries (being a gymnast and hand-balancer can do that to a person!), and just prior to this challenge had to stop playing for a couple of weeks after aggravating an old injury.

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Priya Viseskul Thanks Priya! I plan to dive into that new thread bigtime. 

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michelle R Thanks Michelle. Given your background I鈥檓 impressed you have found a way to carry on with the piano! Last year, after a month of overuse practicing a later Beethoven sonata (that fugue!) I developed lateral epicondylitis so severe that it impeded my normal daily activities. Took about 6 months to get back to normal. Similar symptoms, and exacerbation of carpal tunnel sydrome, developed rapidly over just a couple days last week. I think doing the ongoing trills in 4th and 5th fingers while using the rest of the hand for other purposes (the last variation) was an inciting factor. I鈥檝e learned from my prior experience just to stop all playing immediately, shut the lid of the piano, and avoid all sources of temptation. I even took a Tonebase break.

      I trashed my arms-hands from repetitive motion injuries reading radiological studies from a digital workstation. Think pressing mouse buttons with several fingers about every 2 seconds for 8+ hours/day. Who knew??

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michael my husband (family medicine doc) has had a recent bout of epicondylitis (probably lateral, but I don't remember for certain) from the whole mouse-clicking thing since everything is electronic these days. He's figured out a way to work that seems to have helped (after trying to do everything left-handed for a week!), at least for now. 

      When I worked as a personal trainer in the 90's we were starting to develop protocols  (like sets of supination/pronation with little to no weight) for helping people avoid some of these over-use inuries. Of course, we were thinking golf and tennis players - we had no thought that "mouse clicking" would become such a popular thing!

      Take care!

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michelle R mice are a whole lot more threatening than anyone could have guessed.

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      • marina
      • pianophile
      • marina
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michael  I鈥檓 so very sorry to hear this Michael. You may be interested in the work of Rae de Lisle ( piano professor at Auckland, NZ) who has studied pianists鈥 rehabilitation for several decades after losing her performance career in her twenties due to an overuse injury. She is an international level pedagogue and has recently published a book called Fit4Piano available in hard copy with embeddened video demos or as an e-book. She worked with our leading concert pianist here, Michael Houston, who made a complete recovery from debilitating focal dystonia, having previously had to retire from the concert platform.  He had to rebuild his technique from scratch. I know of one student who was just beginning to develop the condition who studied with her and reported that she was unsurprised that he had previously played the Harpsicord. Presumably a very different finger action? Perhaps not transferring well to the piano keyboard. Her book is very clear, easy to understand, and concise. Very user friendly. I heard second hand that of all the pedagogues she interviewed she considered Penelope Roskill鈥檚 work and philosophies closest to her own. I have both books. I have huge respect for Rae and have attended several of her presentations. She is a leader in her field. 
      Here is a link to a presentation she gave to an international conference about her work. 
      https://youtu.be/JvqCRyfzz4o

      and her website. (The book may look like it鈥檚 intended for children but it is directed to all levels and specifies advanced repertoire where a particular exercise is rel猫vent and helpful. )

      https://www.raedelisle.com/fit-4-piano.html

      I鈥檓 sure you will find much of value here. She鈥檚 worked with many health professionals and may be available for consultation by Zoom, I鈥檓 not sure. 
       

      Wishing you the very best for a complete and sustained recovery Michael. 

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    • Michael Sorry to hear this! Hope you are back to the piano soon.

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    • Michael Take care, Michael, and all the best for your recovery!  

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michelle R for your mouse-clicking husband, check out https://contourdesign.com/collections/rollermouse

      I tried every ergonomic product I could find, and the rollermouse was the winner.

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      marina thanks so much for your kind, thoughtful and very helpful information! You may want to share your suggestions and links in the new forum for discussing musicians鈥 injuries https://piano-community.tonebase.co/t/x2hahp8/musicians-health-matters-discussing-music-related-injuries-and-prevention-strategies

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Priya Viseskul thanks! The thread you reference is made for me!

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Vidhya Bashyam thanks

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Sindre Skarelven thank you

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      • Michael
      • Art Historian, Musculoskeletal Radiologist, Former Harpsichordist
      • MichaelP
      • 7 mths ago
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      Gillian thank you

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    • Michael so sorry, Michael! Hope you get well soon!

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      • Michelle R
      • Michelle_Russell
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michael Thanks, Michael. I'll let him know about this product. Great timing, because his lateral epicondylitis flared up again this week.

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      • Juan Carlos Olite
      • Philosophy teacher and piano lover
      • Juan_Carlos
      • 7 mths ago
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      Michael Sorry to hear this, Michael! Hope you get recovered soon. Take care!

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    • Michael get well soon 馃檹

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    • Michael Hi Michael! I am so sorry! Get well soon!!!

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    • Michael Hope you recover soon Michael!

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  • https://youtu.be/CnoejuDkPwQ
     

    I haven鈥檛 been able to post more individual variations last week as planned. Here I鈥檓 posting the complete piece, however imperfect, just in case I don鈥檛 have time to record again. I think I played more musically this time than most, although it鈥檚 so so so hard to keep it stumble-free. through the 7 minutes which is the longest I鈥檝e ever recorded at TB. I hope nevertheless this still does enough justice to the brilliance of this composition, and that we may give Czerny more of a hearing as a composer, 

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    • Ching Lee Goh I was waiting to see who would take the honour to post the first recording for the final week! You might just convince me to reexamine my relationship with Czerny 馃槃

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    • Ching Lee Goh Really great playing of this rare and virtuosic work! 

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