Besides Chopin Op. 10 No. 1, are there any other advanced pieces suitable for beginners?

Just watched Dominic Cheli 's workshop on Op 10 No 1 and I'm now left wondering if there are other pieces like that. Are there more Chopin etudes beginners can use? Pieces by other artists? 

 

source: https://app.tonebase.co/piano/live/player/chopin-etude-op10-no1

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  • My opinions only.. but I think there's no chopin etude suitable for beginners... of course, it depends on how one defines a piano beginner.  

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  • In general a beginner is someone who cannot play. Seems like you are not really a beginner? Have you played Hanon or Czerny? This is a precursor to any of the etudes. Can you play all the major, minor scales and major, minor, dominant seventh arpeggios fluently  --maybe 120 at quarter note? Do these first!!

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  • Oh my! 10/1 is very hard and might be a little frustrating. Horowitz refused to play it in concert.  10/6 is pretty accessible and 25/1 is very effective for the effort required.  
     

    Also, Chopin wrote these studies to develop a novel approach to wrist and arm use. A good piano teacher is invaluable to start learning these.

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    Elias Garar I concur with the other commenters that op10 no1 is not the best piece for developing early technical foundations. I do think it's beneficial to study the general mechanics required to play the Etude slowly and carefully, so Dominic's session and also Garrick Ohlsson's lesson on the piece can be helpful for anyone to make discoveries in their own technique.

    But I highly recommend picking simpler exercises to train reflexes, coordination, balance, etc, and also just to get to know common musical patterns, structures, progressions, so that you have a stronger musical/physical foundation before attempting these.

    This is basically how Marina Lomazov's Chopin Etude Training course is constructed: she begins with simpler Czerny exercises and demonstrates practice techniques for strengthening your mechanism before applying it to Chopin Etudes.

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  • There are some etudes from Burgmüller which are very nice and mire reachable too for a not too early beginner.  The technique requirement is more reachable than the chopin etudes and brings a sense of achievement too. 

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